Phil Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've got both Andersen and Fleury. I'm dying on the vine here, so I'm open to the shift, but taking on Allen is gonna torpedo my goaltending, so I'm not sure we're going to agree on how much of a drop off from Crosby you can suffer. Is Trocheck too much of a fall for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've got both Andersen and Fleury. I'm dying on the vine here, so I'm open to the shift, but taking on Allen is gonna torpedo my goaltending, so I'm not sure we're going to agree on how much of a drop off from Crosby you can suffer. Is Trocheck too much of a fall for you? Phil you have some interesting names. And I hate Brett Burns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Fleury sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I've got both Andersen and Fleury. I'm dying on the vine here, so I'm open to the shift, but taking on Allen is gonna torpedo my goaltending, so I'm not sure we're going to agree on how much of a drop off from Crosby you can suffer. Is Trocheck too much of a fall for you? I think there is merit here, because I think both teams can improve from this trade. Obviously Trocheck is a falloff for me, but Andersen/Fleury would stablilize my goaltending. And Crosby is going to help you, but Allen is an anchor.. Food for thought, but I think I would be willing to pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I might. Not sure I want to move Murray, as I have him in both of my leagues. Tough call... I'd be interested in Backstrom/Murray for Crosby/Allen. With your 3 goalies, you'd be better off dropping Allen and just going with Talbot/Smith. If you are comfortable with going with 2 goalies and getting Crosby, something to consider. or rotating the 3 goalies based on matchups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Phil you have some interesting names. And I hate Brett Burns... I'm also just spinning my wheels throughout this entire start to the season. I feel like I'm built mostly on utility, with little impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I feel like I'm built mostly on utility, with little impact. Sounds like my sex life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Injuries are killers... if a player is week-to-week, I don't know why a team doesn't just put him on IR. Too valuable to drop, but an empty hole in the lineup when they are not IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Feeling pretty good about offensive stats this season. Need work in net Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Josh, what kinda reverse psychology shit you tryin to pull? Looking for Goals and PP Points while putting Draisaitl on the block... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Ok what? Why not just drop Allen and pick up another goalie? Why are you getting rid of Sidney Crosby to pick up Murray? @fletch? Also, you wanted Backstrom/Murray for your package and you're gonna settle for Draisaitl? Lemme figure out how to say, "FUCK NO" to this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I’m not dropping Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Ok what? Why not just drop Allen and pick up another goalie? Why are you getting rid of Sidney Crosby to pick up Murray? @fletch? Also, you wanted Backstrom/Murray for your package and you're gonna settle for Draisaitl? Lemme figure out how to say, "FUCK NO" to this deal. Hard to win many weeks when you are losing 3-0 in goalie points every week, and deal improves my goaltending. Murray is a significant upgrade over anything available on the waiver wire. Crosby improves his roster. Vetoes should be used when there is collusion (one player is dumping). That isn't the case here - I'm certainly not giving up in week 5 of a cash league. And I did win three years in a row in BSBH 2, so I must know a thing or two about fantasy hockey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 There's nothing wrong with this trade. Allen is an anchor. He's going to tank anyone's goaltending stats, so, no, fletch didn't give up Sid to get Murray. He gave up Sid to get Murray and to have Josh take on Allen. No one should be vetoing this trade. There's no justifiable reason to do so. It was a hockey deal between two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 except, especially with radulov and getzlaf out, fletch is killing his offense. And he's trading 4 wins a 3.99 GAA and a .879 SV% for 4, 3.87, and .886. He's not getting any goal tending help here. This is where Matt Murray's game is at...horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 That's his choice. The trade itself is not lopsided, is my point. And that's the only real reason anyone should be vetoing a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Fantasy trade analyzer has this trade as fair value, with the Draisaitl/Murray side slightly favored. https://www.fantasysp.com/trade/nhl/11274848/allen-crosby-murray-draisaitl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 You people are weird. Drop Allen and ride the FA wave. I digress, I've never won anything at Fantasy. I still don't understand "I'm not dropping Allen" Maybe I need an upgrade on G, I keep getting this alert that several hundred people have dropped Sarros. FUCK IT. I CHOSE MY FUCKING FATE. Fuck you Martin Jones. Also, I voted against the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 You don’t vote against trades in a money League because you “don’t like them” or you wanted one of the players involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Don't tell me what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 You people are weird. Drop Allen and ride the FA wave. I digress, I've never won anything at Fantasy. I still don't understand "I'm not dropping Allen" Maybe I need an upgrade on G, I keep getting this alert that several hundred people have dropped Sarros. FUCK IT. I CHOSE MY FUCKING FATE. Fuck you Martin Jones. Also, I voted against the trade. Don't tell me what to do! OK, so you are comfortable with going with the hot hand of Sarros, Kinkaid, Lehner, Howard... that is your choice. You have the arrogance of telling me that you know how to run my team better than I do. And you are trying to block me from doing what I think is best for my team. Draisaitl had 25 goals and 45 assists last year, while Crosby had 29 goals and 60 assists. Draisaitl has gotten off to a better start than Crosby this year. Crosby will end up with more points than Draisaitl, but let's not react like I'm trading Crosby for a fourth line checker. And Russian Meddling is willing to go from Murray, Talbot, and Mike Smith to roll the dice with Talbot, Smith, and Allen to get Crosby. Pretty ballsy if you ask me. I try and set my best lineup each week, whether I'm in first place or last place in a league. I'm the kind of owner you want to compete against, not the kind that checks out when they are losing. So screw anyone that tries to manage my team for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Don't tell me what to do! Go to your room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 OK, so you are comfortable with going with the hot hand of Sarros, Kinkaid, Lehner, Howard... that is your choice. You have the arrogance of telling me that you know how to run my team better than I do. And you are trying to block me from doing what I think is best for my team. Draisaitl had 25 goals and 45 assists last year, while Crosby had 29 goals and 60 assists. Draisaitl has gotten off to a better start than Crosby this year. Crosby will end up with more points than Draisaitl, but let's not react like I'm trading Crosby for a fourth line checker. And Russian Meddling is willing to go from Murray, Talbot, and Mike Smith to roll the dice with Talbot, Smith, and Allen to get Crosby. Pretty ballsy if you ask me. I try and set my best lineup each week, whether I'm in first place or last place in a league. I'm the kind of owner you want to compete against, not the kind that checks out when they are losing. So screw anyone that tries to manage my team for me. Arrogance? No. Naivety and negligence? Sure. Do I have to say yes to you helping your team? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Go to your room! BUT IT"S ONLY A ONE BEDROOM. MY OFFICE IS ALREDAY IN HE LIVING ROOM. wHy Is LiFe So HarD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Fleury sucks He did great for me last season,he has had a slow start ,but it's still early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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