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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    The only way it changes is if they're 2005-06 surprising. As in picked to finish near the bottom of the league almost universally and strike gold with garbage, becoming the most unlikely powerhouse in the league.


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    That's exactly what I was thinking of. Granted, that team had an up-and-coming Henrik and a Rangers-record-setting Jagr, but I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised with the on-ice product this year. I think we're going to win to the point of annoyance, and by annoyance I mean "there goes our Jack Hughes lottery pick" annoyance.
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    Regardless of how we do I think smart money would say we will be signing 2 of Panarin, Silverberg, Duchene and/or Seguin( it would be foolish for any of them not to go into free agency and see what they can get and we will have the money to do it)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    Regardless of how we do I think smart money would say we will be signing 2 of Panarin, Silverberg, Duchene and/or Seguin( it would be foolish for any of them not to go into free agency and see what they can get and we will have the money to do it)


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    I'm not so sure that we're that attractive of a destination for free agents anymore. I mean, if we surprise some people like I think we might, then all of a sudden we're a high-energy, competitive team on the upswing with a bright future. But as it stands now, we're a bit of a mess with no light at the end of the tunnel for at least two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    Regardless of how we do I think smart money would say we will be signing 2 of Panarin, Silverberg, Duchene and/or Seguin( it would be foolish for any of them not to go into free agency and see what they can get and we will have the money to do it)


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    Getting two of four is a HUGE ask. I'll take the under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Lothbrok View Post
    I'm not so sure that we're that attractive of a destination for free agents anymore. I mean, if we surprise some people like I think we might, then all of a sudden we're a high-energy, competitive team on the upswing with a bright future. But as it stands now, we're a bit of a mess with no light at the end of the tunnel for at least two years.
    New York is always attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    Regardless of how we do I think smart money would say we will be signing 2 of Panarin, Silverberg, Duchene and/or Seguin( it would be foolish for any of them not to go into free agency and see what they can get and we will have the money to do it)


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    I'd love to get Silfverberg, just because of how he seems to be a playoff performer. Add in the weakness on the wing and it's just a good fit. Of course Panarin would be a nice get too.

    I don't think they can attract two of these names though.

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    Why do we want another 40 point winger who is also about to get overpaid (Silfverberg, in case it wasn't obvious)? That would be such a terrible signing.

    Panarin is the guy they need however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wiskers View Post
    Regardless of how we do I think smart money would say we will be signing 2 of Panarin, Silverberg, Duchene and/or Seguin( it would be foolish for any of them not to go into free agency and see what they can get and we will have the money to do it)


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    I'd entertain the idea of signing Duchene to a Hayes-like contract, 1 year, maybe around 6m. I dont think you can commit to him long-term.

    Would LOVE Seguin, but it will take a huge overpayment to get him out of Dallas. And then I'm not sure he'd have the linemate like Benn to get those stats up.

    Panarin - sure. But it will depend on the progress of our centers this season. If 3 of Zib, Chytil, Lias and Howden (Hayes?) don't take huge steps forward, I'm not sure we should be investing in another skilled winger for the long term. (In the top 6 Kravtsov, Panarin, Buchnevich, Chytil, Zibanejad - middle/bottom 6: Namestnikov, Spooner, Fast) SAWFT

    Silverberg - would be an old school Rangers pick up. paying him 6m x 7 for third line duties. Helll no
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    Seguin could definitely be a possibility. UFA after this season (Although I think he'd probably end up staying in Dallas). What was missing throughout the last few years of good playoff runs was a true #1 talent. We had the perfect supporting cast and an elite goalie. We just didn't have that one top player to put us over the top. With the cap continuing to go up and what will likely be a lot of cap room, we can absolutely afford Seguin. But to lure him here, the young players are going to have to show a lot. But if he wants to be THE guy in a big city like New York, he'll definitely have that option
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    I'm for it, I just think you need to be careful during the rebuild process.

    These are questions that should be asked/answered next offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    They were, what, a point out when they waived the white flag last February? They could easily have bought and made the final wildcard. Instead, they proactively sold. I'd say that counts.


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    When we traded McDonagh and Miller we were 25th. To me that was the flag, Nash not so much.
    When Nash was traded, we had just gone 5-16 in the previous 21 games.


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    Huh? Who in their right mind expects the team that you root for to lose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Why do we want another 40 point winger who is also about to get overpaid (Silfverberg, in case it wasn't obvious)? That would be such a terrible signing.

    Panarin is the guy they need however.
    Because he's really good in the playoffs? Like I said? 45 points in 69 games. Solid two way player. Decent size. Not sure about his metrics. They ought to be pretty good..

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Because he's really good in the playoffs? Like I said? 45 points in 69 games. Solid two way player. Decent size. Not sure about his metrics. They ought to be pretty good..
    I see a very inconsistent playoff performance. 2 really good ones, 2 terrible ones, and 2 meh ones.

    Pass on giving him big money...we already have guys like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    I see a very inconsistent playoff performance. 2 really good ones, 2 terrible ones, and 2 meh ones.

    Pass on giving him big money...we already have guys like him.
    Who???? Who do the Rangers have that can turn it on in the playoffs? Ohhhh Fast. Yeah. We have players JUST like Silfverberg...

    He's had one bad playoff 13/14. His sophomore season.

    Rookie--12/13- 10 games 4 points
    13/14- 13 games 2 points
    14/15- 16 games 18 points
    15/16- 7 games 4 points
    16/17- 17 games 14 points
    17/18- 4 games 2 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Who???? Who do the Rangers have that can turn it on in the playoffs? Ohhhh Fast. Yeah. We have players JUST like Silfverberg...

    He's had one bad playoff 13/14. His sophomore season.

    Rookie--12/13- 10 games 4 points
    13/14- 13 games 2 points
    14/15- 16 games 18 points
    15/16- 7 games 4 points
    16/17- 17 games 14 points
    17/18- 4 games 2 points
    We have and have had plenty of 40 point wingers for quite some time now. Anyone who follows the team already knows. Silfverberg is not in the same class as the other 3 players you've mentioned...and it's not close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    When we traded McDonagh and Miller we were 25th. To me that was the flag, Nash not so much.
    When Nash was traded, we had just gone 5-16 in the previous 21 games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    We have and have had plenty of 40 point wingers for quite some time now. Anyone who follows the team already knows. Silfverberg is not in the same class as the other 3 players you've mentioned...and it's not close.
    Where did I say he was better? I said I'd like to add him. Do I have to say why again? What player on this team or past Ranger teams are playoff performers? That's something that has been lacking big time.

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    I think this is on the shoulders of how the blue line does. believe we were 29-30th in gaa last year. goals we were in the middle of the pack. special teams were pretty good.

    i really want to see them on the lower end of things this season just so they get a chance at a top pick but if we are competitive i'm not going to cry about it as it means the kids are developing better than anticipated.

    we are in the right direction though of that i am certain. I'm really happy this org took a step back to retool the right way, especially in a league where u see talent locked up at a younger age. Paramount to develop through with in.
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