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    Itís way too early to tell if the 7th and 9th overall picks can be elite. Who couldíve they picked that is considered elite right now?
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    Middelstadt and Whalstrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Middelstadt and Whalstrom
    Def the first one.

    Tbd on second one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Def the first one.

    Tbd on second one.
    I’m just answering the question. I’m good with the Rangers picks.
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    Pronman: 2018-19 NHL Farm System Rankings

    TBD for both, no one knows what any of these guys are going to be, especially if they will be elite.
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    No one said elite players. Elite level PROSPECT.

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    Itís the same thing, you expect them to be elite one day. No one knows what theyíre going to be is still the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    With a 7 and 9 overall and be lacking in Elite prospects is decent work?
    In Pronmanís world very few are labelled as ďElite prospectsĒ. He reserves that for players projecting as a top 10% in the league in their position. His description of ďHigh end prospectĒ is

    High-end prospect: Projects as a legit top-line forward who can play on your PP1/top pairing defenseman.
    Iirc Tolvanen is the only player so far to be placed in this bracket.
    If you get 1 or 2 players fitting that description out of 2 drafts, then yes - I think thatís decent. That being said my gut feeling is we could have used our #7 better. I hope Iím wrong. I also hope it can be offset by the Chytil pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Middelstadt and Whalstrom
    I’m not sure he considers either of them “elite”, certainly not Wahlstrom. Iirc he only felt Dahlin and Svechnikov were elite prospects coming out of this draft, but let’s see.
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    Rangers had a chance to draft the names I mentioned
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    Yes, but in the context of this thread/Pronman’s work they aren’t (at least, that’s my guess) considered “elite”.
    I mean I’d personally argue Mittelstadt is elite and I’m reasonably certain we’re going to regret passing on him.

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    Itís possible but itís way too early to tell who will be elite at this point, itís not like we passed Dahlin with the first overall pick to take either of these guys.
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    It's definitely possible to say who are elite prospects at this time. It's impossible, or at least very difficult, to say with a reasonable degree of certainty who will actually deliver on their promise and turn out to be elite players.

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    I disagree, all players develop differently, itís way too early to tell about picks from 2017-2018 that arenít number 1 or 2
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    23. Pittsburgh Penguins

    The Penguins’ system has followed a similar theme the past few years as they’ve pushed to compete. They are very thin in quality prospects, yet they continue to squeeze out a couple good players at the top of their system. Daniel Sprong, Calen Addison, Filip Hallander and the undrafted Jordy Bellerive are the most recent examples. Sprong’s fantastic rookie AHL season and skill set give them a potential top-six forward they can slot in next season and hope to stretch out the window a little longer.

    Team’s 2017 ranking*: No. 31
    https://theathletic.com/446764/2018/...urgh-penguins/

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    22. Edmonton Oilers

    The Oilers’ drafting outside the first round has long been a punchline. I don’t think they’ve done a marvelous job of that in recent years, but it’s steadily been better. Ryan McLeod, Tyler Benson, Ethan Bear and Caleb Jones are examples of players I like that they’ve gotten on Day 2 of the draft. Couple that with a guy like Kailer Yamamoto and the Oilers might yet get some value from a player picked outside the top 10 (I didn’t include Evan Bouchard given he was picked in the top 10).

    Team’s 2017 ranking*: No. 28
    https://theathletic.com/439523/2018/...monton-oilers/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    It’s the same thing, you expect them to be elite one day. No one knows what they’re going to be is still the point.
    No it's not. Not at all. An elite player is better than a scrub player the same as an elite prospect is better than a scrub prospect.

    That has absolutely zero to do with if an elite prospect becomes an elite NHL player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    In Pronman’s world very few are labelled as “Elite prospects”. He reserves that for players projecting as a top 10% in the league in their position. His description of “High end prospect” is


    Iirc Tolvanen is the only player so far to be placed in this bracket.
    If you get 1 or 2 players fitting that description out of 2 drafts, then yes - I think that’s decent. That being said my gut feeling is we could have used our #7 better. I hope I’m wrong. I also hope it can be offset by the Chytil pick.
    This is what I'm getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    This is what I'm getting at.
    I didnít read the article to see his breakdown of tier
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    21. Colorado Avalanche

    I’ve been critical of the Avs’ drafting over the past decade, but steadily I’ve liked the direction they’ve gone. I don’t see many impact guys in this system aside from fourth-overall pick Cale Makar, but they have been adding some nice pieces over the past two years. With the young assets they have and will get in the Matt Duchene trade, for the most part, this is an organization moving in the right direction.

    Team’s 2017 ranking*: No. 20
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