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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Wouldn’t Staal be another example. Stepan. Etc.
    Staal was a UFA wasn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Staal was a UFA wasn't he?
    yup, and an 8 year vet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Wouldn’t Staal be another example. Stepan. Etc.
    Stepan was bridged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Wouldn’t Staal be another example. Stepan. Etc.
    Stepan was bridged, that’s why he ended up costing so much.

    Staal and McD are the only two that come to mind andnoth contract were excellent.
    Staal singed at same age through age 28 at 3.9 per season.
    Mcdonagh signed at same age through age 30/31 at 4.7 per season.

    We received premium years at a discount. It was the NEXT contract for Staal that was bad.


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    Look at the bright side, we could’ve signed Tom Wilson instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    How is this a bad approach? GM locks up our best (young vet) defender for his entire prime. Done at 30. There are no other Dmen to lock up. This is the way you build a team. Draft well, draft often, develop and lockup your best young vets.
    I didn't say it was necessarily a bad approach. It might work. It just isn't the best approach to me for a rebuilding team where spots should be earned. I do not think Skjei has quite earned a guaranteed long term spot like this contract gives him. Being the "best defender" on an utterly terrible defensive team does not mean much by the way. Staal was also better than Skjei last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Look at the bright side, we could’ve signed Tom Wilson instead
    Lol true what a disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    It certainly does not seem like the right approach when rebuilding, where everything should be earned, and tthat creates a healthy competitive environment. Instead this feels like gambling, even if it is a somewhat educated gamble.
    I don't think that you reach a rebuild moment, where you have clear vision on all players and then rank them against each other. More likely you find blocks that you decide you want to build with one by one. Gorton is apparently pretty sure that Skjei is one of those blocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    I didn't say it was necessarily a bad approach. It might work. It just isn't the best approach to me for a rebuilding team where spots should be earned. I do not think Skjei has quite earned a guaranteed long term spot like this contract gives him. Being the "best defender" on an utterly terrible defensive team does not mean much by the way. Staal was also better than Skjei last year.
    Just seems there are enough spots to earn. Zib, Kreids, and Skjei can lead and be among the stable pieces. Zuc, Staal and Hank will do their part leading for as long as they are here.

    Think of it this way: The Rangers just bought Skjei first and best 3 years of UFA for dirt cheap. Plus we forego the declining years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    Just seems there are enough spots to earn. Zib, Kreids, and Skjei can lead and be among the stable pieces. Zuc, Staal and Hank will do their part leading for as long as they are here.

    Think of it this way: The Rangers just bought Skjei first and best 3 years of UFA for dirt cheap. Plus we forego the declining years.
    I get it. I am not against it per say. It's moreso just a preference for a conservative approach. I find this road riskier is all, but it can certainly pay off. I guess we will find out.

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    24 and a real good player with top line potential and there's anyone complaining about a guy who hasn't taken a beating yet, has his best upside and is locked into his best years at 2018 prices.

    Great decisions this off season.

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    Looking at Skjeis splits, he was a +/- -3 through the first 50 games. Then went -24 in the last 30. I can't remember who he was partnered with for this drastic change. The loss of McD had a pretty large impact. I was impressed with how Skjei seemed to concentrate on his defense at the start of the season thru to Dec. He seemed to be frustrated with himself for not getting the point totals he hoped for and started carrying the puck deep and letting his defensive game suffer. Then the trades screwed everyone up. I do think Skjei is smart and talented enough to bring his play to the next level under Quinn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBrowningPI View Post
    Looking at Skjeis splits, he was a +/- -3 through the first 50 games. Then went -24 in the last 30. I can't remember who he was partnered with for this drastic change. The loss of McD had a pretty large impact. I was impressed with how Skjei seemed to concentrate on his defense at the start of the season thru to Dec. He seemed to be frustrated with himself for not getting the point totals he hoped for and started carrying the puck deep and letting his defensive game suffer. Then the trades screwed everyone up. I do think Skjei is smart and talented enough to bring his play to the next level under Quinn.

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    McDonagh was hurt, then traded. Skjei was getting important minutes.

    And Skjei is not a point producer. He shouldn’t be counted on for points. His rookie stats were far and beyond what he’s done at any level. It was a fluke thing.
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    Lot of years and a lot of money for someone so unproven.

    Hope he keeps working to get better because that contract plus how mediocre this team currently is could be a recipe for him to coast.
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    Perfect time to lock him down.
    If we were a veteran team against the cap, then we’d be forced to bridge like we did Stepan.

    We don’t have that issue


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    Quote Originally Posted by fletch View Post
    Lot of years and a lot of money for someone so unproven.

    Hope he keeps working to get better because that contract plus how mediocre this team currently is could be a recipe for him to coast.
    All players are "unproven." Especially young ones. That's why you invest.


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    We made too much money on a player that has been in the league for three years. Look at Marc Stall, De facto captain, first d-line,has been in the league for five years (at the end of his deal) and is paid $500,000 more than a three-year player in Brady Skjei? SMH!! Gorton is not our money wisely, mainly on this deal. I have never liked him as GM.

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    Comparables to Brady Skjei:

    Kjell Samuelsson
    Joe Watson
    Leo Reise
    Rasmus Ristolainen
    Rob Blake
    Patrick Traverse
    Randy Carlyle
    Leo Reise
    Steve Durbano
    Jeff Sharples

    https://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...skjeibr01.html

    So from Rob Blake and Rasmus Ristolainen to a lot of forgettable players - wide possible range. Six years is an awful long time to commit, I'd be much more comfortable in the three to four year range.

    Comparables would probably put him more in the 4.5 million range

    https://thehockeywriters.com/new-yor...kjei-contract/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Wouldn’t Staal be another example. Stepan. Etc.
    How was Stepan a bad contract? He was a number 1 center and in the top 3 in scoring in this team every year putting up 55 points a year, plus was the teams top PKer. Stepan was far from the problem on this team. And he still out scored everyone on this team last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    How was Stepan a bad contract? He was our number 1 center and in the top 3 in scoring in this team every year putting up 55 points a year, plus was the teams top PKer. Stepan was far from the problem on this team. And he still out scored everyone on this team last year.
    FTFY.

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