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    Who Do You NOT Want at 9?

    Likely available: Joel Farabee - I dont like his game. A floater, stays on the outside.
    Dark horse:
    Grigori Denisenko - skilled, but just something about him I dont like
    Serron Noel - not seeing it.
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    That's projected to go near there? Farabee, Barrett Hayton, Bode Wilde.


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    Yes.

    I added the off the boards because the Rangers are known to do that. If they took Noel at 9, I'd flip shit. Porn everywhere. And not even good porn. Think you are clicking on a Noel thread? Nope - midgets.
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    Yeah, any of these reach players would be a huge mistake.


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    Kotkaniemi. We picked 2 c’s in the first round last year and traded for Howden. I’m all for BPA but that seems a bit excessive.

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    Kotkaniemi would be fine because you'd have a nice group of center prospects. Tons of value there.


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    Well, he would be fine.
    But in all likelihood you’re looking at a pick from Kotkaniemi and 1 or 2 of the top d prospects, depending on whether Wahlstrom is still on the board.
    Kotkaniemi is my last pick regardless of what happens in front of us.

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    What I mean is you can trade from that group to add as needed. Quality centers are the most valuable trade chip in the league, forward-wise.


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    That’s a valid point.
    But I’m not leaving a Dobson, Bouchard, Wahlstrom or Boqvist on the board to pick Kotkaniemi.
    I think there are BPA arguments for each of them, and that’s before considering our reasonable depth of c prospects.

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    Merkley. Although I have not really seen anything suggesting he'll go this high.

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    A defenseman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    Merkley. Although I have not really seen anything suggesting he'll go this high.
    Yeah, that would be a crazy pick at 9. No need at all.
    Pronman had him rated at 10 and picked in the 20’s I believe.

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    Serron Noel.

    I've seen his name listed for the Rangers on 2 or 3 different mock draft and I fucking hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Serron Noel.

    I've seen his name listed for the Rangers on 2 or 3 different mock draft and I fucking hate it.
    How typical Rangers wouldn't that be? I'd love the kid at #26, but hell no at #9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    A defenseman.
    Need to add a scoring forward, not another JAG defenseman. Among and between Eyechart, Shattenkirk, Pionk, Lindgren, Day and Hajek and others already here, it's enough. If some 100 pt offensive D Brian Leetch like guy is there, fine. But that's not likely. Get the sense though if Gorton and Clark think D is the best, they won't much care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugg View Post
    Need to add a scoring forward, not another JAG defenseman. Among and between Eyechart, Shattenkirk, Pionk, Lindgren, Day and Hajek and others already here, it's enough. If some 100 pt offensive D Brian Leetch like guy is there, fine. But that's not likely. Get the sense though if Gorton and Clark think D is the best, they won't much care.
    Bugg, isn't BPA the best idea? What if Svech, Zadina, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom and Kot are gone?

    Drafting for perceived need on a team that needs top talent over anything, is a mistake. Especially when experts are now almost unanimous that there is a drop around pick 11. Dobson, Bouchard, Boqvist, Hughes are far from JAGs, all projected top-pair. Any would vault to become our highest upside Dman. If the forwards are gone, two of them will be there to choose from. Plus Ty Smith is right behind this group and very promising. You'd rather reach for a lesser or riskier forward?

    There is a theory that we reached for Lias over other higher upside prospects because he was viewed as more ready than those others. Again "need" drafting instead of BPA and it may have been a mistake based on how those prospects continue to impress. Many said it at the time and a redraft today would bear that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    Bugg, isn't BPA the best idea? What if Svech, Zadina, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom and Kot are gone?
    Kravtsov.

    If Dobson or Hughes are left, I'd go for them. In all likelihood, neither will be.

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    No doubt, he's a very interesting prospect! I'd love to trade up to grab Kratsov or Smith if either makes it to 15. Respect your opinion, but we shouldn't pass on a choice of 2 of the 4 dmen. Obviously, adamantly against trading back from 9 or any trade back really. For those who suggest it... we have plenty of picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    Bugg, isn't BPA the best idea? What if Svech, Zadina, Tkachuk, Wahlstrom and Kot are gone?

    Drafting for perceived need on a team that needs top talent over anything, is a mistake. Especially when experts are now almost unanimous that there is a drop around pick 11. Dobson, Bouchard, Boqvist, Hughes are far from JAGs, all projected top-pair. Any would vault to become our highest upside Dman. If the forwards are gone, two of them will be there to choose from. Plus Ty Smith is right behind this group and very promising. You'd rather reach for a lesser or riskier forward?

    There is a theory that we reached for Lias over other higher upside prospects because he was viewed as more ready than those others. Again "need" drafting instead of BPA and it may have been a mistake based on how those prospects continue to impress. Many said it at the time and a redraft today would bear that out.
    If there's a no brainer big time offensive D, fine. But There are only going to be 7 D on the roster at any given time, and only 4 of them getting the bulk of minutes. Skjei, Shattenkirk, Pionk are going to lock down 3 of those slots, Smith or Staal (figure 1 or the other is gone) will be the 4, DeAngelo and 3 young guys will get a shot. Shattenkirk is the old man (assuming Staal is gone) at 28 with a long term contract. How much really is a young D going to play in the next 3 years?

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    The D’s available to us at 9 are basically no brainers.
    The only one with a small question mark for me is Boqvist, but he comes with a massive upside.

    The wild card is whether Wahlstrom is there or not.

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