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    Doubtful Spooner is in Rangers' Long-Term Plans

    I doubt that Ryan Spooner fits into the Blueshirts’ long-term plan. The winger, reasonably productive but a bit too perimeter-oriented for a team that wants to transform into more of a straight-line attack mode, is also arbitration-eligible and a year away from free agency.

    To that end, it may be difficult to move Spooner, who went 4-12-16 in 20 games after coming to New York as part of the Nash deal, at the draft. The Rangers will have to decide whether to sign the winger for one year — probably for around $3.5 million — so he can be available as a trade-deadline rental or simply allow him to become a free agent by not qualifying him.
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    I’d do 1 yr $3.5
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    I'd go for the 1 year also and depending on where the Rangers are at the trade deadline you can always move him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    How dumb is that? Where does he come up with this shit? And his Spooner assessment just hit him today? Thankfully Brooks is not involved in our asset mgmt. Gotta write something I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    How dumb is that? Where does he come up with this shit? And his Spooner assessment just hit him today? Thankfully Brooks is not involved in our asset mgmt. Gotta write something I guess.
    Unbelievable, the guy comes here and puts up 16 points in 20 games on a team where half the roster played like they were on 𝙻𝚒𝚏𝚎 support. I get he may be little perimeterish, but he can move the puck with skill and effectiveness...Id give him a looksee contract at least.
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    Ridiculous. I let Names go unqualified before I let this guy go. Good passers are needed in a North South style of play? WTF?

    Shit, I definitely think about trading Veseys rights soon because I am seriously thinking they shouldn't qualify him.

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    Not a fan of either spooner or Namestnikov. Way to passive for the skill they provide

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Ridiculous. I let Names go unqualified before I let this guy go. Good passers are needed in a North South style of play? WTF?

    Shit, I definitely think about trading Veseys rights soon because I am seriously thinking they shouldn't qualify him.
    I was just wondering about this. Do clubs ever not qualify an RFA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyb™ View Post
    I was just wondering about this. Do clubs ever not qualify an RFA?
    Yes. It almost never happens with quality ones, though. I'm no Namestnikov fan, but not qualifying him, or Vesey, or Spooner, is a non-starter in my court. That's just pissing away an asset. I'd sooner sign any of them to a one-year deal and trade them.
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    Namestnikov went from playing on the first line of the best team in the league to the 4th line of a team playing out its schedule. He wasn't all that special before playing with superstars last season, and I'm not optimistic about him. Still, he is skilled must get a chance. If he's a total bust, the trade of McDonagh and Miller is going to look catastrophically bad. At my most pessimistic moments, I think of Namestnikov and Spooner as like a long procession of players who came and went in the dark seven non-playoff years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    Namestnikov went from playing on the first line of the best team in the league to the 4th line of a team playing out its schedule. He wasn't all that special before playing with superstars last season, and I'm not optimistic about him. Still, he is skilled must get a chance. If he's a total bust, the trade of McDonagh and Miller is going to look catastrophically bad. At my most pessimistic moments, I think of Namestnikov and Spooner as like a long procession of players who came and went in the dark seven non-playoff years.
    When Toronto trades one of their young top forwards for a top pairing D man this summer, is when I completely lose my shit over the McD trade. I'm already underwhelmed on the return they got. If they could have gotten one of Marner, Nylander or even Kapanan in exchange for McD and Miller,....

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    We have a host of mediocre RFAs can’t keep them all.
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    Doubtful Spooner is in Rangers' Long-Term Plans

    I love how some have already graded the McD/Miller trade disastrous and we haven’t even made either draft selection or seen either prospect yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    I love how some have already graded the McD/Miller trade disastrous and we haven’t even made either draft selection or seen either prospect yet.
    Yea it's not making much sense to me.

    This team has no business selling players and picks for one guy like Nylander (who, btw is almost Nash-like in the playoffs) when we can acquire multiple picks and prospects instead.

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    No reason why Spooner shouldn't be around next season unless the Rangers get a trade offer they can't refuse for him. Qualify him for one year, and if we're out of the playoffs trade him for the highest bidder. If we end up getting a 2nd rounder+ for Spooner, that will already make the Nash trade a win. A 1st, Lindgren and a year+ of Spooner and whatever he can get back in a trade? Pretty darn good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR Cafe Joe View Post
    No reason why Spooner shouldn't be around next season unless the Rangers get a trade offer they can't refuse for him. Qualify him for one year, and if we're out of the playoffs trade him for the highest bidder. If we end up getting a 2nd rounder+ for Spooner, that will already make the Nash trade a win. A 1st, Lindgren and a year+ of Spooner and whatever he can get back in a trade? Pretty darn good!
    I fear the contract, honestly. I don’t want to see anything long term, and I want to avoid contracts in the 4-6m range (mediocrity is death - range).
    I wouldn’t mind him back, but I’d much rather use cap space for Kovalchuk or Tavares, if possible.
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    The Mac/JT trade can’t be judged on Namestnikov’s performance.
    It’s a good couple of years until we have any idea whether it was great, shit or somewhere in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    The Mac/JT trade can’t be judged on Namestnikov’s performance.
    It’s a good couple of years until we have any idea whether it was great, shit or somewhere in between.
    100% correct. It'll take at least 3 years to see what Hajek and Howden have to offer and at least 5 years until we see what comes of the other 1st round pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR Cafe Joe View Post
    100% correct. It'll take at least 3 years to see what Hajek and Howden have to offer and at least 5 years until we see what comes of the other 1st round pick.
    How Howden and Hajek turn out is a key measurement in judging the trade. We were able to scout them and traded for them. As for the picks? The picks are the picks. If it turns out that we make bad 1st and 2nd round selections that is on scouting/drafting and really is no longer a measure of the trade. Everyone knows there will be NHL talent in the entire first round this year and it is up to us to make a good selection or use the pick to improve other assets or areas of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    How Howden and Hajek turn out is a key measurement in judging the trade. We were able to scout them and traded for them. As for the picks? The picks are the picks. If it turns out that we make bad 1st and 2nd round selections that is on scouting/drafting and really is no longer a measure of the trade. Everyone knows there will be NHL talent in the entire first round this year and it is up to us to make a good selection or use the pick to improve other assets or areas of the team.
    Agree with almost everything you've said here on the issue in this post and others. The only thing I feel differently about is it's splitting hairs saying that if they blow the picks it's no longer a measure of the trade because that's on the scouts etc. It's the same front office/organization and if they piss away the picks it's still a factor in the return for some quality players we moved. The end result would be bad and that's all that matters.

    As for Brooks I wouldn't expect anything but crap most of the time, he didn't disappoint here.

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