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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    True enough...well McD was 28 and Marty was 38.

    But ages aside, at the time of the respective trades, one player was 10th in the league in scoring with 29 goals and 60 points in 61 games, while the other was dealing with the latest injury in his injury riddled career.
    Right, except it seems right now like you're pivoting to defend your point but that doesn't change his...We got a retiree and they got a player who's got something to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Right, except it seems right now like you're pivoting to defend your point but that doesn't change his...We got a retiree and they got a player who's got something to give.
    How am I pivoting? We traded for a more productive player. Both had another year left on their deal. Neither team expected to resign the player in free agency. Both teams traded for two years of a star player, except McD was regressing at the time of the trade and Marty was a point per game player. Yes, its early to judge and McD is younger and has a better chance of rebounding next year, but currently our trade for Marty has worked out better for us than Tampa's trade for McD has worked out for them.

    If Tampa fails to win the cup next year, their trade for McD is worse than our trade for Marty. Was that not his point? That our trade for Marty was bad and their trade for McD was good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    How am I pivoting? We traded for a more productive player. Both had another year left on their deal. Neither team expected to resign the player in free agency. Both teams traded for two years of a star player, except McD was regressing at the time of the trade and Marty was a point per game player. Yes, its early to judge and McD is younger and has a better chance of rebounding next year, but currently our trade for Marty has worked out better for us than Tampa's trade for McD has worked out for them.

    If Tampa fails to win the cup next year, their trade for McD is worse than our trade for Marty. Was that not his point? That our trade for Marty was bad and their trade for McD was good?
    To be honest it's totally impossible to say that the trade for St.Louis was better than the trade for McD. How did it work out better for us than it did for them? We didn't win. They didn't win. That's a silly argument.

    The point is, we got a player we knew probably only had a year left. They're getting a player that has far more in the tank regardless of if he's a star or not. We gave up a lot of assets for a year-and-a-half of MSL. They gave up assets for what could probably be the rest of McD's career.

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    it was the person general manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Niko View Post
    While I know Tampa hasn’t hoisted the cup, this article raises interesting questions. If all of these players were still current rangers, where do you think we’d be as an organization? Was it the roster, the coach or the culture of the team that had the biggest impact on always being a bridesmaids and never a bride?

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightn...-york-rangers/

    “Meet the guys who have been around, been there, done that. They've been to a Cup final, been to a conference final, been most any place but the top. Girardi has played in 132 playoff games. McDonagh has played in 106. Stralman has played in 97. Think that doesn't help? Think that doesn't matter?”
    Trade Callahan (young with a bright future) for St Louis (old has has been). Let go free agents and then give up. Why does every one blame AV. Talent gone, best player out with blood clots, then have gm totally give up. Front office should have been fired not AV.

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