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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Dan View Post
    Yea, you can speak for yourself on that one. There are plenty of unhappy fans with this trade. Not to mention reporters/fans who tell a different story when it comes to the guy. But I'm not going to argue with you over it since your mind's made up. The dude's gone so let's move on shall we?

    I just hope the Giants have a plan and are able to execute it properly. A cherry on the top would be getting news of Eli NOT coming back next season. Thanks for the memories but I'm done with the guy and his play.
    I agree with this post. There are very few fans that are happy about this move. And I just read today from ESPN that Eli is the starting QB this upcoming season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bieser View Post
    Rosen started 13 games last year. Not sure why he can't just play.

    I doubt the Cardinals pull the trigger now, they may wait on offers closer to the draft.
    Trading for Rosen might be the only scenario that winds up making sense to cut or sit Eli. Rosen doesn't need to sit on the bench. Like you mentioned, he already played last year and reasonably well under the circumstances. He needs to play wherever he is this year.

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    They donít need a 23 million dollar babysitter. Cut the Mofo!


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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    You keep bringing this up, but your not looking at where the pick is compared to the talent that was traded. Who in the NFL isn't na egomaniac? This wasn't a need to trade, so getting the 17th and 93(?) pick is an absolute disgrace. Peppers hasn't shown anything here in the NFL yet either. This was far from the best you get for him. If anything, it should have been a 1st and 2nd for a talent like that.
    Peppers is basically a 2nd round pick so youíre contradicting yourself. And as far as everyone being an egomaniac, thatís simply not true, Beckham takes it to a whole new level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Dan View Post
    Yea, you can speak for yourself on that one. There are plenty of unhappy fans with this trade. Not to mention reporters/fans who tell a different story when it comes to the guy. But I'm not going to argue with you over it since your mind's made up. The dude's gone so let's move on shall we?

    I just hope the Giants have a plan and are able to execute it properly. A cherry on the top would be getting news of Eli NOT coming back next season. Thanks for the memories but I'm done with the guy and his play.
    They need to move on from Eli but don't seem willing because of the two Super Bowl titles. The SB titles plus 'Manning' on his jersey distract from how average/mediocre he currently is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Peppers is basically a 2nd round pick so you’re contradicting yourself. And as far as everyone being an egomaniac, that’s simply not true, Beckham takes it to a whole new level.
    I’m not contradicting anything, the guy hasn’t been impressive at all here in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Iím not contradicting anything, the guy hasnít been impressive at all here in the NFL.
    Not from what Iíve read but okay.
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    Giants sign Golden Tate

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...am/3166595002/

    Wide receiver Golden Tate signed with the Giants on Thursday. ESPN reported the four-year deal was worth $37.5 million and included $23 million fully guaranteed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Dan View Post
    Meh. OK. They obviously needed WR. Seems like a bit of an overpayment however. I was wondering if they wouldn't take a WR with their #17 pick. I think this rules that out which I am good with.

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    Good enough signing. A bit overpayment. Fills a hole. This team is going to be a hole.... more like a stinky asshole this season so whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Good enough signing. A bit overpayment. Fills a hole. This team is going to be a hole.... more like a stinky asshole this season so whatever.


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    If the OL plays well, then I see plenty of pieces in place to have success offensively. Fully expect this defense to get lit up for like 30+ a game though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    You do realize this is a very common thing in the NFL, right? Plenty of players have even held out for a new contract when they were still under contract. Its not just him that acts like this, and this is something people don't see. Most of the players in the NFL are egomaniacs and narcissists, thats the culture of the league.
    Not all of them alter team Dynamics to the level he has. Talk about fans... I know someone with a locker room connect. They're all fine with this.

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    Looks like OBJ couldnít control himself on Twitter last night. Making Gettleman and Mara look better with each embarrassing tweet he put out.

    https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2019...-comments/amp/

    Elite talent, elite egomaniac. Bad combination.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Looks like OBJ couldn’t control himself on Twitter last night. Making Gettleman and Mara look better with each embarrassing tweet he put out.

    https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2019...-comments/amp/

    Elite talent, elite egomaniac. Bad combination.


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    Doesn't it feel so good that he isn't our problem anymore? Cleveland is loaded with talent but it's a highly combustible situation. If it works out for them it will be special to watch. If it doesn't though it will set Cleveland back many years.

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    I hope DG and the Giants don't bend to the QB pressure if it's not there. I'm not a fan of Haskins, especially at 6, and I've read some mocks lately that have Jones at 6. What a terrible move it would be to pass up on a top end defensive prospect when we need that so badly. If they want to take a QB at 17 I'm cool with that. Jones or Lock would be fine. I'm also fine with a 2nd for Rosen if the Cards do take Murray. I think what is likely to happen is:

    6) Defense
    17) QB - Jones or Lock
    37) OT or traded up to get back in the 1st for an OT

    The rest will be defense and probably a WR with size.

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    I heard on the fan this morning that Haskins dropped and might be available at 17, Iím fine with taking him there than at 6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    I heard on the fan this morning that Haskins dropped and might be available at 17, I’m fine with taking him there than at 6
    The only QB I'd roll the dice on at 6 is Murray. High risk with his size and all, but very high reward. Don't buy this chatter that the Cards aren't taking him #1 though.

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    Anything but D at 6 (perhaps OL) and Iíll lose it. 17 is tough. I still want D or Haskins perhaps although I bet he goes 8-14ish.

    Iíd still trade for Rosen, 2nd rounders in 19í and 20í


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Anything but D at 6 (perhaps OL) and I’ll lose it. 17 is tough. I still want D or Haskins perhaps although I bet he goes 8-14ish.

    I’d still trade for Rosen, 2nd rounders in 19’ and 20’


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    I'm also fine if they don't do anything with QB until next year.

    I did see one interesting mock draft that had them go:

    6. Oliver DT
    17. Jonah Williams OT
    31. Will Grier QB (trade to move from 37 to 31 in front of the Pats to take him - 2nd and 4th or something like that it was)

    I wouldn't be upset with this outcome tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    I heard on the fan this morning that Haskins dropped and might be available at 17, Iím fine with taking him there than at 6
    Iím good with this. I donít want them taking a QB at 6 either. Iím all in on Oliver.

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