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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    Horrible. Barkley is fucked. Eli gonna dunk the ball off to him 15 times a game? Give me a break.


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    Yeah so no different than last year with OBJ lol

    This trade sets the stage for after this upcoming season. The team and roster was trash. It needed to change. OBJ should have been more concentrated on the team and less on himself. Barkley looks like a natural born leader. Humble and unselfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    We all know Eli is done here. OBJ was the perfect WR for a new QB coming into the league. This puts a ton of pressure on Barkley. Dumb moves.
    Beckham would ruin a rookie QB. He had no respect for Eli, what do you think he would do with a rookie not getting him the ball. This is exactly same thing as Shockey. And the return was solid. I love what Gettleman is doing this offseason, cleaning house
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    Eli needs to go. Now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Beckham would ruin a rookie QB. He had no respect for Eli, what do you think he would do with a rookie not getting him the ball. This is exactly same thing as Shockey. And the return was solid. I love what Gettleman is doing this offseason, cleaning house
    Was he a dick, yes, but he was also the best WR in the game. This is a terrible deal. That first round pick is number 17, not a top 5 or top 10 pick, number 17 for the best WR in the game. If they would have take the kid from Ohio, with him, OBJ and Barkley, the team would have been 10 times better. Outside of Barkley, there is zero offense on this team. Offensively the team just needed a QB, now we need a QB and a WR, not to mention a better offensive line, and now a safety as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Was he a dick, yes, but he was also the best WR in the game. This is a terrible deal. That first round pick is number 17, not a top 5 or top 10 pick, number 17 for the best WR in the game. If they would have take the kid from Ohio, with him, OBJ and Barkley, the team would have been 10 times better. Outside of Barkley, there is zero offense on this team. Offensively the team just needed a QB, now we need a QB and a WR, not to mention a better offensive line, and now a safety as well.
    They fucked up their young offensive nucleus for sure. They donít have the picks to fix that now on top of all their other problems. QB, DE, etc.

    Sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    They fucked up their young offensive nucleus for sure. They don’t have the picks to fix that now on top of all their other problems. QB, DE, etc.

    Sad.


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    Exactly. The only reason to make this trade is if it makes the team better, and this doesn’t. If they were getting a top 5 pick in return, that at least takes the sting away. But this trade hurts the team more than it helps, and it sets the team back a long ways. The only positions they were good with were at WR and RB, now it’s just at RB. I really have no desire to watch this team this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Was he a dick, yes, but he was also the best WR in the game. This is a terrible deal. That first round pick is number 17, not a top 5 or top 10 pick, number 17 for the best WR in the game. If they would have take the kid from Ohio, with him, OBJ and Barkley, the team would have been 10 times better. Outside of Barkley, there is zero offense on this team. Offensively the team just needed a QB, now we need a QB and a WR, not to mention a better offensive line, and now a safety as well.
    Doesnít matter, heís an egomaniac, that drops his stock if you want to believe it or not. As for the offensive line, they just traded Vernon for one of the best offensive lineman and got their safety in the Beckham trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
    They fucked up their young offensive nucleus for sure. They donít have the picks to fix that now on top of all their other problems. QB, DE, etc.

    Sad.


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    DE will be fixed with the 6th pick and I believe they will go hard after Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    DE will be fixed with the 6th pick and I believe they will go hard after Rosen
    Whoís he throwing to?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Doesn’t matter, he’s an egomaniac, that drops his stock if you want to believe it or not. As for the offensive line, they just traded Vernon for one of the best offensive lineman and got their safety in the Beckham trade.
    Peppers hasn’t done anything yet in the league. And what top playerin the NFL isn’t an egomaniac. Regardless of his antics, that doesn’t take away from what he can do on the field. Again, this trade does not make the team better. They have two huge holes to fill on offense in QB and WR, not to mention a lot of holes in the defense. This wasn’t a move that needed to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsley View Post
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    Shepard, Engram and the 17th pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Shepard, Engram and the 17th pick
    And Barkley. One of the best pass catching RBs in the game. We've got Barry Sanders with hands in the backfield and people are losing their shit about trading a diva, oft-injured, overpaid WR.

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    Eh.....Iím pissed. I thought I saw where this franchise was going but now I donít see it. This was the wrong time to trade OBJ. It should have happened last year or in a few years if he didnít gel with the new QB.

    This timing blows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    And Barkley. One of the best pass catching RBs in the game. We've got Barry Sanders with hands in the backfield and people are losing their shit about trading a diva, oft-injured, overpaid WR.
    Barkley will get destroyed next season. Theyíll
    Stack the box and snuff him out. Heíll probably end up injured from overuse.


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    So pissed. OBJ to Browns. Landon Collins to Redskins. Oliver Vernon to Browns. WTF. Elite players at their positions that you cannot replace with draft picks. Epic fail.
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    Bill Barnwell, ESPN eviscerates the Giants for the OBJ trade
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    "Months after paying him a $20 million signing bonus, they traded one of the league's best young players at any position to the Browns for the sort of offer the computer would reject in a video game."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletch View Post
    Bill Barnwell, ESPN eviscerates the Giants for the OBJ trade
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...nts-browns-won

    "Months after paying him a $20 million signing bonus, they traded one of the league's best young players at any position to the Browns for the sort of offer the computer would reject in a video game."
    Itís a bitter pill to swallow, especially as a huge OBJ fan. I donít want to repeat much of what is already in this article, so Iíll just say this:

    Gettleman has yet to do something for this team that shows a clear vision. Those talking about liking this move are putting a lot of faith in a man that has yet to do something worthwhile. His FA signings have been crap, with only Solder left of the bunch. Iím hoping he turns it around. One things for sure, this upcoming draft is crucial. Considering what the roster looks like right now, they need a fargin homerun.

    Man, Iím pissed lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    I like the return, he needed to go
    agree,the giants sold high.
    now they could draft their qb and needs with 'll the draft picks

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    1st rounder, 3rd rounder, and a young safety for an often injured absolute egomaniac.

    If people canít see that is the best youíre going to get for, no matter how talented he may be and that they are in a full rebuild mode , I donít know what else to say but I still love you
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    Thoughts after sleeping on it:

    1) The Giants don't need to force a QB in this draft. If everyone is so confident that Eli is finished, they'll be in just as good, if not better, of a position in the 2020 draft than this year to get an impact QB. Not only draft wise, but also capwise. They have something like 90m in cap space slated for next year. I see a lot of people on the interwebz whining about dead cap space. That is for one season, and it is extremely shortsighted to judge the trade based on 1 year of having a bad cap. The Giants were going nowhere with the team as it was constructed.

    2) if they can sign Darryl Williams, then the OL is complete. The offense would be missing a little WR depth, but they can remedy that cheap through FA and the draft. From a receiving standpoint, I've seen a lot of teams do just fine with far less offensive talent than Shepherd, Engram, and Barkley.

    3) Take best player available with every pick in the draft. I have read this is a defense heavy draft, which is great because they need defense far more than anything else with the OL complete. I would not be surprised if the best player available aligns with the Giants need here.

    4) If they like a QB, I don't see them moving mountains to get one. If one falls into their laps at either pick (Haskins at 6? Jones at 17?), perhaps they take one. It simply doesn't make sense to trade up if you plan on having another high pick next year. There's too many defensive holes for this team to be much better, if at all, than last year.

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