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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Sure, not terrible.

    IMO, we need to get Mika on the wing. Let him rip. Let him focus on scoring. That’s where he will be the most beneficial to the team.

    But more importantly, we need a 1C, and it’s not him.
    That's fine, but if Mika and his cap hit are on the wing, assuming we bring in these pricey UFA's, we won't be able to afford having Hayes to play C also...

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    A part of me doesn't really believe this full on rebuild thing. Might be because of all the signings we have done over the past seasons. We'll see.

    And we should've shitcanned AV and his system years ago. Things would've been different right now I think.

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    Kovy - JT - Chytil
    Kreids - Zib - Buch
    Vesey - Hayes - Spooner
    Fast - Lias - UFA/someone

    Trade Zuc and Names for D and cap. Win the cup. Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    I don't understand people wanting to hang on to Hayes. Not just you but others have said the same. I don't get it. What's to like about him? Defense? You can get that anywhere.
    The only thing I can see is there’s a potential upside with him if a new coach comes in, whips him into shape and he starts using his size to his advantage. He needs several rockets up his ass, then maybe we’ll see a useful player.

    Right now I could take or leave him.

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    Hayes could be Boyle but better offensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Hayes could be Boyle but better offensively.
    Kevin Hayes is already a better player than Brian Boyle ever was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Kevin Hayes is already a better player than Brian Boyle ever was.
    Yes, I agree at times he has. That's why I say better offensively. He lacks consistency, similar to Kreider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Yes, I agree at times he has. That's why I say better offensively. He lacks consistency, similar to Kreider.
    He lacks offensive consistency because he's been on the 3rd line, mostly. And was still putting up better ES numbers than Zibanejad, our #1C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loffen View Post
    A part of me doesn't really believe this full on rebuild thing. Might be because of all the signings we have done over the past seasons. We'll see.

    And we should've shitcanned AV and his system years ago. Things would've been different right now I think.
    I'm going with this!

    I wanna see this team under a real coach, not the former douche bag. He lost this team 2 years ago. Lets see what these guys have when they have new fire under their ass....or in this case A FIRE AT ALL!

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    he plays marshmellow soft for a guy his size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    He lacks offensive consistency because he's been on the 3rd line, mostly. And was still putting up better ES numbers than Zibanejad, our #1C.
    Playing against weaker competition, sure.

    Zibinejad could put up 80 point playing against the guys Hayes plays against, with PP time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Playing against weaker competition, sure.

    Zibinejad could put up 80 point playing against the guys Hayes plays against, with PP time.
    Maybe if he has Hayes as his center!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobberknocker View Post
    he plays marshmellow soft for a guy his size.
    This. He should be dominating physically out there, but he's far too easy to play against for a guy his size.

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    He doesn't utilize his size for sure ,but playing under Av surely made it worse

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    Using your size is different in this NHL. Guys are too fast. You cant have your center trying to take runs at opponents to leave a 3 on 2 with Gilmour and O'Gara back to defend.

    He was playing physical at the end of the season when his minutes increased, especially in the offensive zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    I'm going with this!

    I wanna see this team under a real coach, not the former douche bag. He lost this team 2 years ago. Lets see what these guys have when they have new fire under their ass....or in this case A FIRE AT ALL!
    The 15/16 season was severly flawed. His player usage was trash. I wanted him gone after that series loss against the Pens. Hard to believe Gorton stuck with him for two more seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loffen View Post
    The 15/16 season was severly flawed. His player usage was trash. I wanted him gone after that series loss against the Pens. Hard to believe Gorton stuck with him for two more seasons.
    I've missed your montages loffen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    I dont want to move Hayes. Would rather move Zibanejad, especially if we are bringing in a center and a RH shooter.
    Huge talent drop off there. Zib can be shifted to a wing or become the 2nd line center if JT is brought in. I don't want Hayes in anything more than the 3rd line role and I dont think it would take too long for Andersson to take on his responsibilities. I drop Chytil/Andersson into the role immediately.

    I know you're not a big fan of Zib, but IMO, the guy can definitely be a game changer, if he's not already. I keep the game changer signed to a 5.3 mill contract for 4 more years over giving Hayes anything over what hes getting now. I think I don't like Hayes MORE than you don't like Zib.

    This team will be better off cashing out on Hayes now, rather than extending him to what could turn out to be 3-4 mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Sure, not terrible.

    IMO, we need to get Mika on the wing. Let him rip. Let him focus on scoring. That’s where he will be the most beneficial to the team.

    But more importantly, we need a 1C, and it’s not him.
    Well it certainly isnt frikken Hayes man. Come onnn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Well it certainly isnt frikken Hayes man. Come onnn.
    I’m not saying that.
    I’m saying Hayes is a more productive 2nd line center than Zibanejad [is a first line center]...

    So if you are looking for a 2nd line C, it seems like a no brainer.

    I also said move Zibanejad to wing, where he can focus on being “a game changer”.

    All contingent upon getting a 1C.

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