That's fine, but if Mika and his cap hit are on the wing, assuming we bring in these pricey UFA's, we won't be able to afford having Hayes to play C also...Originally Posted by josh
That's fine, but if Mika and his cap hit are on the wing, assuming we bring in these pricey UFA's, we won't be able to afford having Hayes to play C also...
A part of me doesn't really believe this full on rebuild thing. Might be because of all the signings we have done over the past seasons. We'll see.
And we should've shitcanned AV and his system years ago. Things would've been different right now I think.
Kovy - JT - Chytil
Kreids - Zib - Buch
Vesey - Hayes - Spooner
Fast - Lias - UFA/someone
Trade Zuc and Names for D and cap. Win the cup. Party.
The only thing I can see is there’s a potential upside with him if a new coach comes in, whips him into shape and he starts using his size to his advantage. He needs several rockets up his ass, then maybe we’ll see a useful player.
Right now I could take or leave him.
Hayes could be Boyle but better offensively.
Kevin Hayes is already a better player than Brian Boyle ever was.
Yes, I agree at times he has. That's why I say better offensively. He lacks consistency, similar to Kreider.
He lacks offensive consistency because he's been on the 3rd line, mostly. And was still putting up better ES numbers than Zibanejad, our #1C.
I'm going with this!
I wanna see this team under a real coach, not the former douche bag. He lost this team 2 years ago. Lets see what these guys have when they have new fire under their ass....or in this case A FIRE AT ALL!
he plays marshmellow soft for a guy his size.
Playing against weaker competition, sure.
Zibinejad could put up 80 point playing against the guys Hayes plays against, with PP time.
Maybe if he has Hayes as his center!
This. He should be dominating physically out there, but he's far too easy to play against for a guy his size.
He doesn't utilize his size for sure ,but playing under Av surely made it worse
Using your size is different in this NHL. Guys are too fast. You cant have your center trying to take runs at opponents to leave a 3 on 2 with Gilmour and O'Gara back to defend.
He was playing physical at the end of the season when his minutes increased, especially in the offensive zone.
The 15/16 season was severly flawed. His player usage was trash. I wanted him gone after that series loss against the Pens. Hard to believe Gorton stuck with him for two more seasons.
I've missed your montages loffen.
Huge talent drop off there. Zib can be shifted to a wing or become the 2nd line center if JT is brought in. I don't want Hayes in anything more than the 3rd line role and I dont think it would take too long for Andersson to take on his responsibilities. I drop Chytil/Andersson into the role immediately.
I know you're not a big fan of Zib, but IMO, the guy can definitely be a game changer, if he's not already. I keep the game changer signed to a 5.3 mill contract for 4 more years over giving Hayes anything over what hes getting now. I think I don't like Hayes MORE than you don't like Zib.
This team will be better off cashing out on Hayes now, rather than extending him to what could turn out to be 3-4 mill.
Well it certainly isnt frikken Hayes man. Come onnn.
I’m not saying that.
I’m saying Hayes is a more productive 2nd line center than Zibanejad [is a first line center]...
So if you are looking for a 2nd line C, it seems like a no brainer.
I also said move Zibanejad to wing, where he can focus on being “a game changer”.
All contingent upon getting a 1C.
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