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    It's not even a question of analytics having validity or anything else, for a coach, AFAIC.

    This coach's job is going to be molding young talent into professionals. For that reason, I'm not concerned with them either being on board with "analytics" or not. I don't care if they hate Corsi or love Fenwick...That had very little with teaching Chytil how to be the best player he can be.

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    “Analytics” is a slide rule while others do math in their head.

    I don’t see Rangers management analyzing a coaches corsi stats when making this decision.
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    Some use of data is wise as is a reliance on 'seat-of-the-pants' or 'eye-test' managing. A combination is ideal IMO. It would be dumb not to use data to decide who should take a late face-off v. a particular opponent IF the data says player X should go to the dot. If that is in conflict with a gut call, then that needs to be reviewed too. What's the prejudice? Data can confirm a hunch or excoriate a bad decision...and of course, numbers can be argued to support almost any conclusion. Hiring a old school guy who doesn't look at numbers is short-sighted. Hiring a Quant is not the sure path to success either. Make sense or am I delusional?

    What I really want to see is a coach who is capable of nurturing young players since that is our team's direction next year and for years to come. Also someone who is not a re-tread. I guess what I'm looking for is some out of the box thinking by Gorton. We don't want to watch a movie we've already seen time and again.

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    I don’t care if the next coach is a retread or a rookie. I just want structure back. I want a guy who is ok with teammates sticking up for one another even if it means you may have to kill a penalty. And yes I want a coach who levels equal punishments and praise at the entire roster. That plays the best players and most deserving regardless of the name on the back of the jersey. The rangers can be bad as that is what rebuilding teams do but they can still play with pride and force others to beat them instead of beating themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    I don’t care if the next coach is a retread or a rookie. I just want structure back. I want a guy who is ok with teammates sticking up for one another even if it means you may have to kill a penalty. And yes I want a coach who levels equal punishments and praise at the entire roster. That plays the best players and most deserving regardless of the name on the back of the jersey. The rangers can be bad as that is what rebuilding teams do but they can still play with pride and force others to beat them instead of beating themselves.
    Bingo Franny! I'm on board with this....

    I'm really curious to see how Gorton does this. I would have taken a one-armed monkey that speaks Swahili over AV, so any of those guys Phil listed would be like winning the lottery!

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    Supposedly Quinn from BU is close with Drury and Gorton to a lesser degree. I would imagine that would make him a logical guy to come here if he’s interested.

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    Or be interviewed, at least.


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    Jettisoning AV and his shitty coaching is a big plus for this team.

    Onward and upward!

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    McKenzie just dropped a tweet storm regarding Peters and Dundon. In effect, it sure sounds like he's on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Supposedly Quinn from BU is close with Drury and Gorton to a lesser degree. I would imagine that would make him a logical guy to come here if he’s interested.
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    I’m hearing Quinn wants a lot of money to leave BU.
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    Yeah, he'll be going from 20 games a year to 80.

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    Phew... Peter's is off the list.

    Flames name Bill Peters head coach
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    Torts available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Torts available.
    According to whom? I'm not seeing anything about him being let go.


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    Say what you will about him, but if they're going to go full rebuild, Torts would do a good job of changing the culture around this club.

    There's no room for a passive coach right now, and he's not one.

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    Same issues - cant develop kids, too stubborn for his own good, McLeod over Buch, lack of in-game adjustments.

    some of those are even bigger issues during a rebuild.



    As much as I hated the guy, what Renney did was pretty good with the kids. He had great leaders in Jagr and his linemates that set examples, he gave time to kids for them to develop - and put them in spots to succeed. And he stayed out of the way when he should have - and let Jagr coach the offensive game, including some ingame adjustments.
    Then Renney tried to be tough, and the voice and it went to shit.
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    Ugh, no baggage please. Plus lumbering, dogmatic, shot-blocking and injured is no way to enjoy hockey. For the skilled players or the fans. I'll take fresh ideas and young, fast and upbeat.

    And those press conferences are painful. Torts still doesn't like people. At least he's kind to animals. If he gets canned in Columbus, he should take some time off and try to find some joy.

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    Love Torts. He's my favorite Rangers coach of my lifetime.

    ...but he's not a good fit right now. Also, not sure why Columbus would fire him. They're a young team that has done well without any superstars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Love Torts. He's my favorite Rangers coach of my lifetime.

    ...but he's not a good fit right now. Also, not sure why Columbus would fire him. They're a young team that has done well without any superstars.

    Define superstar. I would consider Bobrovsky and Panarin as extremely high end talent. Panarin better than any forward the Rangers have had since Jagr.

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