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    Absolutely. They can’t expect to have the Rangers help in bringing in their final piece for an immediate run at the Cup without giving up part of their future.
    That acquisition is going to hurt a bit. In particular because they can’t swing it without us (or somebody else willing to eat salary).

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    Kravtsov to stay in Khl this season. Announced on team web site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    No we aren’t but we a team who isn’t concerned about every penny spent. The rangers should be willing to use some cash to acquire assets unlike many of the others with space. Also and more important is that the rangers don’t have any players coming up on big raises that they have to sign. The rangers space is long term while the jets for instance isn’t.

    Regardless teams don’t just take bad contracts off teams hands. We have had our bad contracts over the years and they’ve become impossible to move. If Stevie y wants to move cally then it’s far past time to make him bleed. If some other team wants to let him off the hook than do be it
    Hayes and Skjei are currently not under contract, and are going to get big-time raises. Buch comes off his ELC after next year and will, presumably, get a huge raise. Zucc is a UFA after next season.

    The Rangers are in a good cap space, but they've got about $20m per year they need to give out in contracts over this offseason and the next, not including guys like Vesey, Spooner, Pionk, and ADA.

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    Any chance that with these talks going on, the Rangers might just want to step in and trade for Karlsson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Any chance that with these talks going on, the Rangers might just want to step in and trade for Karlsson?
    day 1: Rangers will take on salary to help trade happen
    day 2: Rangers are out of discussions
    day 3: Rangers are in discussion to acquire Karlsson.
    day 4: Rangers are not in discussions to acquire Karlsson or take on salary. They are sticking to the rebuild.

    rinse and repeat.
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    Karlsson to TB was imminent, then fell through at the last minute (Friday? Thursday?)

    There are rumors as to why it didnt happen... most thinking that Ottawa tried to include Ryan in the last minute.
    My theory - Karlsson didnt want to sign an extension, prior to the trade. There have been some quiet rumors (that no one has really entertained) that there was mention of him wanting to sign in NY.

    Rangers were in trade talks to take on salary... within a few days, we heard that Panarin and Karlsson both hinted at playing in cities that meet the description of NY. Since then, trade talks, and rumors about Rangers interest in taking on salary has died down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Karlsson to TB was imminent, then fell through at the last minute (Friday? Thursday?)

    There are rumors as to why it didnt happen... most thinking that Ottawa tried to include Ryan in the last minute.
    My theory - Karlsson didnt want to sign an extension, prior to the trade. There have been some quiet rumors (that no one has really entertained) that there was mention of him wanting to sign in NY.

    Rangers were in trade talks to take on salary... within a few days, we heard that Panarin and Karlsson both hinted at playing in cities that meet the description of NY. Since then, trade talks, and rumors about Rangers interest in taking on salary has died down.
    We couldn't afford both of them unless they took below market.

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    I don't recall. Is Lundqvist close with Karlsson? Any recruitment by the Scandinavian guys now spread throughout the system?

    Is this why the team stock piled D men prospects?

    Anybody ok with dealing some prospects for a signed Karlsson and Ryan?

    What do people think it would take? If you're absolutely against trading for him (signed to an extension of course), how about signing him if he makes it to UFA?

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    Skjei, Spooner/Hayes/Names, 1st
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    Take Hayes out of that and I'm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Take Hayes out of that and I'm down.
    When we have Spooner and/or Namestnikov, plus Chytil, Andersson, I won’t let Hayes hold up a trade for a guy like Karlsson.
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    I keep thinking that getting Karlsson essentially wastes 2-3 years of top dollar, foregoes a potential #1, and just proves the Rangers can't resist a superstar that may have crested the hill. But he would be that great example/teacher for the lads, could provide moral support for Hank through the trough, and none of those pieces is so golden that we couldn't lose it. I guess you don't get one like him very often.

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    I don't know about his injury status and whether he's going to be the same, but if Karlsson could take Ottawa's rump squad to the second overtime period in the seventh game of the conference finals, he could do quite a lot with the Rangers. Are the Rangers now a worse team than Ottawa, outside of Karlsson, was last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    I keep thinking that getting Karlsson essentially wastes 2-3 years of top dollar, foregoes a potential #1, and just proves the Rangers can't resist a superstar that may have crested the hill. But he would be that great example/teacher for the lads, could provide moral support for Hank through the trough, and none of those pieces is so golden that we couldn't lose it. I guess you don't get one like him very often.
    No question.

    Have to take into account how quick the rebuild will be, how long you think Karlsson will stay “in his prime” ( or current state), and how long you think he’ll be an effective defenseman after that.

    How management answers those questions will determine how they will proceed, but I’m not sure they want give up the necessary pieces to acquire him.
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    Just saw that Montreal might be looking to move Max Pac, wouldn’t mind him here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Just saw that Montreal might be looking to move Max Pac, wouldn’t mind him here.
    I would. Hes going to get a nice big contract and almost 30. On top of that he would cost assets to acquire. About the complete opposite from what the team is doing.

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    IMO Karlsson and/or Max Pac are a step backwards toward the quick fix mentality that got us into a demise worthy of a "Fire Sale" in the first place.
    Montreal is in the same situation, and Ottawa is being proactive to avoid the NYR burning dumpster fire fate.

    Why step forward only to repeat the mistakes of the all too recent past?

    No thank you. Maybe review with younger FA's in a few (optimistic) years when we are perhaps thinking about going deep again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Just saw that Montreal might be looking to move Max Pac, wouldn’t mind him here.
    Seems like every "name" player that's mentioned, someone has this same response.

    In no way does Pacioretty make sense for the Rangers. Huge price tag of young assets for a player who's on the back end of his career. It's the opposite of what's going on here.
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    What about taking on Ryan's AND Cally's contracts?

    Tampa Sends Sergachev+ B lister/Picks to Ottawa; Tampa sends a useful piece (TBD) to New York + Guarantees 1st; Ottawa sends Formenton to New York; New York sends a 2nd to Ottawa
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