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    Quote Originally Posted by priorae View Post
    They need to do this right. The Lightning can’t do this without getting rid of current NHL talent or using the Rangers space. Taking on Callahan needs to come with a sweetener. Maybe the rangers can give them their second / (first restriction) back and they can yank Foote away from them along with Callahan.
    Why even give their pick back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by priorae View Post
    They need to do this right. The Lightning canít do this without getting rid of current NHL talent or using the Rangers space. Taking on Callahan needs to come with a sweetener. Maybe the rangers can give them their second / (first restriction) back and they can yank Foote away from them along with Callahan.
    I'd rather have Katchouk than Foote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priorae View Post
    They need to do this right. The Lightning canít do this without getting rid of current NHL talent or using the Rangers space. Taking on Callahan needs to come with a sweetener. Maybe the rangers can give them their second / (first restriction) back and they can yank Foote away from them along with Callahan.
    I'll take Foote and turning that conditional into a guaranteed 1st....or they can try and find someone else willing to take their junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    I'll take Foote and turning that conditional into a guaranteed 1st....or they can try and find someone else willing to take their junk.
    Does Gorton want to get Callahan as part of that deal? It will all depend on how much Tampa offers us. We can get Foote for that respective pick for the 1st round. Can we pick up his salary?

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    Getting Foote AND firming the conditional into a 1st is essentially giving us TBL's next and last year's 1sts and I would think pretty unlikely. Just getting Foote INSTEAD of the conditional is potentially (should the Leafs smoke TBL in the division final) moving from a future 58th to a concrete (2017) 14th that is 2 yrs closer to the NHL. Looking at what it cost to move from 26 to 22 in this past draft, that's a lot of value for spending a few mil on Cally. That also puts their 2019 1st back in play as part of the return for OTT and makes the whole thing more likely to happen. But even that may be too much for Stevie.

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    Surely we’ll make them bleed a bit to take on their disposables.
    Katchouk/Foote or kindly fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    Getting Foote AND firming the conditional into a 1st is essentially giving us TBL's next and last year's 1sts and I would think pretty unlikely. Just getting Foote INSTEAD of the conditional is potentially (should the Leafs smoke TBL in the division final) moving from a future 58th to a concrete (2017) 14th that is 2 yrs closer to the NHL. Looking at what it cost to move from 26 to 22 in this past draft, that's a lot of value for spending a few mil on Cally. That also puts their 2019 1st back in play as part of the return for OTT and makes the whole thing more likely to happen. But even that may be too much for Stevie.
    Excellent post Rodrigue and it still may be too optimistic. Stevie values Serg and Foote highly. It would seem one has to go to Ottawa, unless Point is the main piece, which I doubt. Yzerman will want to keep at least one of the two Dmen.

    I still think the best we can hope for is Taylor Raddysh or Boris Katchouk. I'd give them their pick back if they send both wingers our way. What else would interest us. Yanni Gourde, who needs a contract? Anthony Cirelli is interesting, but he showed well with the Bolts and is too valuable to send just to take Cally.

    Yzerman has no deadline, he's probably playing us against other clubs to widdle down the comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravesy View Post
    Surely weíll make them bleed a bit to take on their disposables.
    Katchouk/Foote or kindly fuck off.
    If Gorton isnít, he should. Fuck Tampa. Make it worth while to take the Jerry curl back or eat shit.

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    Rangers have zero reason to budge here. If tampa wants Karlsson then they need the cap space. Callys contract is a joke and a first minimum is required to take it on. That’s an additional first not turning the conditional we already own into no conditions. Foote or katchook would be ok too but that’s it. The rangers have no reason to help them. The cap space holds its value no reason to give it up unless it’s worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Rangers have zero reason to budge here. If tampa wants Karlsson then they need the cap space. Callys contract is a joke and a first minimum is required to take it on. That’s an additional first not turning the conditional we already own into no conditions. Foote or katchook would be ok too but that’s it. The rangers have no reason to help them. The cap space holds its value no reason to give it up unless it’s worth it
    I agree that we are useful to the deal and have cards to play. But we aren't the only ones with cap space.

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    No, but they have the most, and of the teams with oodles of cap room, are the only one rebuilding who probably don't care about losing next year. Winning and New Jersey aren't there. The Isles kind of are, but I doubt they'd admit it. Vegas really isn't, and Ottawa is, but are run by a notorious cheapskate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    No, but they have the most, and of the teams with oodles of cap room, are the only one rebuilding who probably don't care about losing next year. Winning and New Jersey aren't there. The Isles kind of are, but I doubt they'd admit it. Vegas really isn't, and Ottawa is, but are run by a notorious cheapskate.


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    What do you think is a reasonable bottom line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    I agree that we are useful to the deal and have cards to play. But we aren't the only ones with cap space.
    No we aren’t but we a team who isn’t concerned about every penny spent. The rangers should be willing to use some cash to acquire assets unlike many of the others with space. Also and more important is that the rangers don’t have any players coming up on big raises that they have to sign. The rangers space is long term while the jets for instance isn’t.

    Regardless teams don’t just take bad contracts off teams hands. We have had our bad contracts over the years and they’ve become impossible to move. If Stevie y wants to move cally then it’s far past time to make him bleed. If some other team wants to let him off the hook than do be it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    No we aren’t but we a team who isn’t concerned about every penny spent. The rangers should be willing to use some cash to acquire assets unlike many of the others with space. Also and more important is that the rangers don’t have any players coming up on big raises that they have to sign. The rangers space is long term while the jets for instance isn’t.

    Regardless teams don’t just take bad contracts off teams hands. We have had our bad contracts over the years and they’ve become impossible to move. If Stevie y wants to move cally then it’s far past time to make him bleed. If some other team wants to let him off the hook than do be it
    Good points. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    What do you think is a reasonable bottom line?
    For what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    For what?


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    For picking up Cally's contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    What do you think is a reasonable bottom line?
    If the rangers are taking cap only (as in just ryan or Ryan, and not Karlsson/Kuc) the return needs to be big. A 2nd + from Ottawa (they won’t, as they do to have picks) or a 1st or top prospect from TB, and probably add to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodrigueGabriel View Post
    For picking up Cally's contract.
    Not cheap. Sergachev, another first-round pick, or Katchouk and additional 2019 picks.


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    Sergachev would surely be part of any trade, i.e. headed to Ottawa?

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    Depends on all the other pieces involved. What I'm saying is I'm not taking ol' Brillo pad back without a serious kicker. Especially if EK65 is staying in Tampa. A team the Rangers will already be fighting to get past in order to win themselves. You want to load up with the Rangers' help? It's going to cost you more than whatever Karlssons's price tag may be. You're going to pay the Rangers, too. Significantly.


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