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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    if you're convinced Wahlstrom is a product of Hughes, then you didn't get a large enough sample size of Wahlstrom's shot. Kid can rip it. Quick release, hard, accurate.
    He hadn’t done anything close to impressive until this season. Comparing anything he’s done prior to this season is nothing more than ordinary.

    I do like some of what he offers, and I’m the first to overlook defensive deficiencies if the offensive numbers are there... but I’m wary.
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    Josh you are referring to him missing the net in the dying seconds to tie the game?

    Wasn’t a great moment for him but not a reason for his stock to fall

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    Walhstrom sucked in the gold medal game. But he's not Moulson or Cheechoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    josh did you watch any of the u18's? Yes Hughes is phenomenal. Wahlstrom is a stud in his own right. He scored on the team usa u18 team last year, he scored there this year while hughes was on the u17 team. Wahlstrom has a lethal shot. Craig Button, when asked to compare him to an NHLer, Mike Bossey. I know you like Kotkaniemi. I do too, but at 9 Wahlstrom is my first choice and Kotkaniemi is the consolation prize.
    would make him a slam dunk no. 1 in my book...

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    New ISS Rankings

    1- Rasmus Dahlin (LD)
    2- Adrei Svechnikov (RW)
    3- Flip Zadina (RW)
    4- Brady Tkachuk (RW)
    5- Oliver Wahlstrom (C)
    6- Evan Bouchard (RD)
    7- Quinn Hughes (LD)
    8- Adam Boqvist (LD)
    9- Noah Dobson (RD)
    10- Joseph Veleno (C)
    11- Joel Farabee (LW)
    12- Barrett Hayton (C)
    13- Martin Kaut (RW)
    14- Noel Serron (RW)
    15- Rasmus Kupari (C)

    1-7 remain the same.
    Boqvist moves from 9 to 8
    Dobson moves from 8 to 9
    Farabee moves from 16 to 11
    Kaut moves from 17 to 13
    Kupari moves from 14 to 15
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    I have a feeling Boqvist's concussion is going to drop him... right into the Rangers' lap.


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    6-9 all defense.

    I would love a great offensive player but this team has no legitimate first pair defensive prospect either. Might just be the way they go at #9

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    I would

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    Kaut's stock rising after playing with Chytil, nice. Could be an interesting pick, we ned RW's, righty as well, chemistry and mates with Chytil and a good PP player.

    I've wanted us to pick a winger with our pick since deadline, but the more I think about it, maybe a D would be the smartest move. Dont know which one of them tho. Boqvist would be nice if he fell all the way to us, Bouchard cause he's a righty? Dont want Dobson to be honest.

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    The little reporter girl is the same size as Hughes on skates.
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    Don't Mcilrath this up Gorts.....

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    Offseason Thoughts
    I hope they dont sign Stastny.
    Skjei hasnt earned a big contract - bridge him
    No contracts between 4m - 6m per year, at any length, unless its a superstar taking a drastic pay cut. This is the "danger zone". Too many middle-tier players getting over paid by 1 or 2m per season. It's a cap killer.
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    I just hope they don't trade their picks, build a deep team from the ground up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Offseason Thoughts
    I hope they dont sign Stastny.
    Skjei hasnt earned a big contract - bridge him
    No contracts between 4m - 6m per year, at any length, unless its a superstar taking a drastic pay cut. This is the "danger zone". Too many middle-tier players getting over paid by 1 or 2m per season. It's a cap killer.
    Iím good with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    I just hope they don't trade their picks, build a deep team from the ground up.
    And this. Although Iím hoping they go for the most skilled available over what seems safest as others have stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Dan View Post
    I’m hoping they go for the most skilled available over what seems safest as others have stated.
    I've been eyeing high-risk, high-reward type players that could drop to the lower 1st or in the top of the 2nd with our other two picks.

    Ryan Merkley seems like the biggest risk/reward guy available. Wheeler states that only Dahlin is more offensively gifted than Merkley but there are rumors that he's not on some team's draft boards due to immaturity issues. Sounds a bit like DeAngelo.

    Ryan McLeod is another guy with an ideal size/skill/speed/IQ combo tinged with inconsistency and attitude concerns.

    I've read a lot about Alexander Khovanov, who dealt with Hep-A over the summer and missed the first half of the QMJHL season. Pronman comments on his hands, high-end skill "but the attribute that drives his value is his hockey sense". Could be an interesting buy-low candidate considering his stats (9 goals, 28 points in 29 games) don't reflect his projectable skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Offseason Thoughts
    I hope they dont sign Stastny.
    He's been great for the Jets, but yeah I don't want anyone over 26 signed to a 7 year contract.

    Skjei hasnt earned a big contract - bridge him
    Bridging may be an outdated concept that causes more cap mgmt issues than it solves. Let's stop the Sather dogmatism. Skjei is a good young Dman who had a down year. We have to be smarter and more proactive versus reactive. Buy low and sign him through his prime, it won't be an inflated contract. Healthy, he will always have value and can be traded if he can't be the player we saw until last year.

    No contracts between 4m - 6m per year, at any length, unless its a superstar taking a drastic pay cut. This is the "danger zone". Too many middle-tier players getting over paid by 1 or 2m per season. It's a cap killer.
    Speaking of dogmatic, that seems like a ridiculous and arbitrary guideline. I get what you are trying to prevent, but the Rangers need to be much more situational than that, in their decision making. They can't be too formulaic based on a few anecdotal examples. The player and team makeup really makes the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR Cafe Joe View Post
    I've been eyeing high-risk, high-reward type players that could drop to the lower 1st or in the top of the 2nd with our other two picks.

    Ryan Merkley seems like the biggest risk/reward guy available. Wheeler states that only Dahlin is more offensively gifted than Merkley but there are rumors that he's not on some team's draft boards due to immaturity issues. Sounds a bit like DeAngelo.

    Ryan McLeod is another guy with an ideal size/skill/speed/IQ combo tinged with inconsistency and attitude concerns.

    I've read a lot about Alexander Khovanov, who dealt with Hep-A over the summer and missed the first half of the QMJHL season. Pronman comments on his hands, high-end skill "but the attribute that drives his value is his hockey sense". Could be an interesting buy-low candidate considering his stats (9 goals, 28 points in 29 games) don't reflect his projectable skill.
    Thanks for the good input Joe. Merkley and McLeod both concern me. Right now it is important that we introduce high character, hard working players into the system. Attitude and character issues are red flags for good reason and should not be overlooked in the overall grade of the player. Sometimes it should take them off the board, at least with regard to premium picks.

    It is very difficult for fans and outsiders to evaluate a players attitude and character. It is critical the teams do there homework and extra DD and many interviews to fess out the issues and determine if they are correctable for that person. An inexact science to say the least. How much one discounts a players abilities based on these concerns is subjective. It seems difficult for us to evaluate either of these two players and I'm not too excited about choosing either in the 1st round.

    Everyone loves a bargain and I'm no different there. However, my life experiences and also being a lifelong sport fan has taught me that some talent are not worth the trouble and can do more harm then good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR Cafe Joe View Post
    I've been eyeing high-risk, high-reward type players

    I've read a lot about Alexander Khovanov, who dealt with Hep-A over the summer and missed the first half of the QMJHL season. Pronman comments on his hands, high-end skill "but the attribute that drives his value is his hockey sense". Could be an interesting buy-low candidate considering his stats (9 goals, 28 points in 29 games) don't reflect his projectable skill.
    Have to look into Khovanov more. One more thing on high risk/reward selections. The type of high risks that seem to have huge payoffs is undersized guys with speed and skill. For instance, Brayden Point and Vinnie Trocheck both slipped all the way to the third because of size. Even in the first round we see very skilled guys slip a few spots because of height, weight or physicality.

    The bias leads to some players being underdrafted, especially since there are still GM's who overvalue measurements compared to skill. The other reason I like these risks is the basic fact that these kids are 18 and some of them have a bit of growing left.

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    Scouting combine in Buff from May 27 to June 2. Anybody here attending? Teams often begin trade conversations here.

    May not have a coach before it is over. The Marlies swept Syracuse May 8, yet the semi-finals do not begin till May 19th. Bah

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