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    [RS] (#82) Rangers @ Philadelphia Flyers // Please No Pyrrhic Victory!




    REGULAR SEASON GAME #82 — 4/7/2018

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    Location: Wells Fargo Center • Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    Time: 3:00 PM
    TV: NBC
    Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM



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    Standings:

    RECORD: 34-38-9 (77 Points)
    POSITION: 8th — Metropolitan
    ROW: 31
    HOME: 21-16-4
    AWAY: 13-22-5
    S/O: 3-5
    LAST 10: 2-6-2
    STREAK: L2


    Team Statistics:

    DIFF: -32 (22nd)
    GF/GP: 2.81 (18th)
    GA/GP: 3.19 (27th)
    PP%: 21.3% (12th)
    PK%: 81.6% (8th)
    FOW% 49.2 (21st)


    Team Leaders:

    Goals: Mika Zibanejad (27)
    Assists: Mats Zuccarello (37)
    Points: Mats Zuccarello (53)
    +/-: Marc Staal (+12)
    PIM: Kevin Shattenkirk (69)
    TOI/G (D): Neal Pionk (22:20)
    TOI/G (F): Mats Zuccarello (18:56)


    Starting Lineup:^

    Chris Kreider / Mika Zibanejad / Filip Chytil
    Jimmy Vesey / Lias Andersson / Mats Zuccarello
    Ryan Spooner / Kevin Hayes / Steven Fogarty
    Matt Beleskey / Vladislav Namestnikov / Pavel Buchnevich

    Marc Staal / Neal Pionk
    Brady Skjei / Ryan Sproul
    John Gilmour / Rob O'Gara

    ^ Subject to change


    Starting Goaltender:

    Henrik Lundqvist

    GS 60
    REC 26-25-7
    SV% .915
    GAA 2.95
    SO 2


    Healthy Scratches:

    David Desharnais
    Peter Holland
    Paul Carey
    Cody McLeod


    Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

    D Kevin Shattenkirk [IR] — Torn meniscus; Out for season
    D Steven Kampfer [IR] — Fractured hand; Out 4-6 weeks
    D Tony DeAngelo [IR] — Sprained ankle; Out 3-4 weeks
    F Jesper Fast [IR] — Groin; Out for season








    Standings:

    RECORD: 41-26-15 (96 Points)
    POSITION: 5th — Metropolitan
    ROW: 39
    HOME: 21-13-6
    AWAY: 20-13-8
    S/O: 2-7
    LAST 10: 6-1-3
    STREAK: W1


    Team Statistics:

    DIFF: +3 (1th)
    GF/GP: 3.01 (11th)
    GA/GP: 2.91 (17th)
    PP%: 20.5% (17th)
    PK%: 75.7% (29th)
    FOW% 53.3% (2nd)


    Team Leaders:

    Goals: Claude Giroux, Sean Couturier (31)
    Assists: Claude Giroux (68)
    Points: Claude Giroux (99)
    +/-: Sean Couturier (+30)
    PIM: Radko Gudas (81)
    TOI/G (D): Ivan Provorov (24:10)
    TOI/G (F): Sean Couturier (21:39)


    Starting Lineup:^

    Claude Giroux C / Sean Couturier / Michael Raffl
    Oskar Lindblom / Nolan Patrick / Jakub Voracek
    Travis Konecny / Valtteri Filppula A / Wayne Simmonds A
    Scott Laughton / Jori Lehtera / Matt Read

    Ivan Provorov / Shayne Gostisbehere
    Travis Sanheim / Andrew MacDonald A
    Brandon Manning / Radko Gudas

    ^ Subject to change


    Starting Goaltender:

    Brian Elliott

    GS 41
    REC 22-11-7
    SV% .907
    GAA 2.73
    SO 0


    Healthy Scratches:

    Taylor Leier
    Jordan Weal
    Dale Weise
    Robert Hagg


    Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

    D Johnny Oduya [DTD] — Lower-body injury
    G Michal Neuvirth [DTD] — Lower-body injury





    QUOTE(S) TO NOTE:


    “I obviously remember being in that building with a lot on the line a few years ago and it did not go the way we wanted,” Lundqvist said after the team’s final practice of the season up in Westchester on Friday. “For us who were there, I think going into [Saturday], we want to play a really strong game, for ourselves and also for that reason. That got a big win at a crucial time that time. We’re going to play a desperate and a really good team [Saturday].”
    — Henrik Lundqvist




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    Finally, a game when I'm not the only one openly rooting for the Flyers!
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    I've found it kind of impossible during this tank to actually root against the Rangers. I know we're supposed to try and have the highest pick possible but damn I just want to see them beat the Flyers. It'd feel really good to possibly take them out of the playoffs
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    Is Fogarty getting a game as a thank you for your service to the organziation but we aren't gonna re-sign you? Kinda seems like a random call up otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairBettsBlocksEverything View Post
    I've found it kind of impossible during this tank to actually root against the Rangers. I know we're supposed to try and have the highest pick possible but damn I just want to see them beat the Flyers. It'd feel really good to possibly take them out of the playoffs
    I don't think of it as rooting against the rangers. I think of it as rooting for long term success rather than short term (1 game that means nothing). Beating the flyers hurts the Rangers long term and if the Panthers lose, it's useless.
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    You're defintiely right. But it just doesn't sit right with me lol.

    take it this way. I'm not going to be excited for a goal, or angry at a goal, regardless of which team scores.
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    Establishing a losing mentality hurts them more, long term, than .5% helps them in the draft lottery
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    Finally an end to this season. Looking forward to focusing on the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Establishing a losing mentality hurts them more, long term, than .5% helps them in the draft lottery
    It's not really about the .5% to win the lottery. That's unlikely no matter what place they finish. Top 3 odds are improved -- which would be massive -- but if not, trading up from 7th/8th is easier than 10th if they want to. It allows for greater flexibility and ultimately a better player/pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlairBettsBlocksEverything View Post
    I've found it kind of impossible during this tank to actually root against the Rangers. I know we're supposed to try and have the highest pick possible but damn I just want to see them beat the Flyers. It'd feel really good to possibly take them out of the playoffs
    is it really that important even if it means getting a potential game changer in the draft? Yes we all hate the flyers but in this case there is actually a beneficial reason to losing

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    Let's go Flyers

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    Yup OK sure.
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    [RS] (#82) Rangers @ Philadelphia Flyers // Please No Pyrrhic Victory!

    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Establishing a losing mentality hurts them more, long term, than .5% helps them in the draft lottery
    "Establishing a losing mentality". Hilarious. Because strategically losing what would amount to about two dozen forgettable games in a season already lost is going to have any tangible affect on their ability to play with pride next season.

    We don't even know who "they" are. Half this team could be traded tomorrow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Yup OK sure.
    I explained my reasoning. Why not explain yours instead of just being passive aggressive on every post you disagree with?
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    Because that would require effort, and breaking his schtick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Establishing a losing mentality hurts them more, long term, than .5% helps them in the draft lottery
    LOL. The team had run its course....we had a great run but it was time to do a bit of a rebuild which meant sacrificing a few wins for a better future. It doesnt mean we are establishing a loser mentality. The team still plays pretty hard considering all the talent that was traded away/-injured. But winning a meaningless last game does nothing except potentially hurt our chances at getting a better talent in june

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    Last Rangers game of the season. Unfortunately not the last game of the season for Pierre or Pillsbury. Can't stand either one of them.

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    [RS] (#82) Rangers @ Philadelphia Flyers // Please No Pyrrhic Victory!

    DVR game for us - will watch tonight W or L.

    Looking forward to the draft, FA, training camp and next season’s first puck drop. And a new coach(es) behind the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4EverRangerFrank View Post
    DVR game for us - will watch tonight W or L.

    Looking forward to the draft, FA, training camp and next season’s first puck drop. And a new coach(es) behind the bench.

    Not a whisper about this one way or another...I'm curious if it's a foregone conclusion that he won't be back that most seem to think.

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    NYR not callous organization but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was shown the door within a few days. New regime needs to prep for the draft and FA.

    I have no idea who comes in next but I’d expect that announcement might not come until after Cup is decided. Unless they did something truly bold and picked a highly successful college coach. I’m not for or against that, just saying it out loud.

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