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    I'm so on the fence about this. What was the last high-profile FA that has actually worked out here? It's more of the same from the Rangers. Buy instead of develop. Who the fuck is going to play defense? Are we really expecting Hank to carry the rest of the squad again?

    By the time the Rangers are retooled (rebuilt) Tavares will be in his 30s, on the downside of his career. The short sightedness of signing him would be astounding.

    ...And yet part of me is still intrigued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    I'm so on the fence about this. What was the last high-profile FA that has actually worked out here? It's more of the same from the Rangers. Buy instead of develop. Who the fuck is going to play defense? Are we really expecting Hank to carry the rest of the squad again?

    By the time the Rangers are retooled (rebuilt) Tavares will be in his 30s, on the downside of his career. The short sightedness of signing him would be astounding.

    ...And yet part of me is still intrigued.
    Gomez was a leading scorer and got us mcdonagh
    Gaborik scored 40 and got us brassard/zib
    Went to the finals with Richards

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Gomez was a leading scorer and got us mcdonagh
    Gaborik scored 40 and got us brassard/zib
    Went to the finals with Richards
    Gaborik worked out for us. Gomez did not. Richards was bought out.... Hardly successes. Considering what you got in return for someone after they were traded as success is bizarre logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Gaborik worked out for us. Gomez did not. Richards was bought out.... Hardly successes. Considering what you got in return for someone after they were traded as success is bizarre logic.
    Richards was bought out because of the change in the CBA that made contracts like his (back diving) dangerous due to recapture. And you consider the return on potential future trades because that's part of the value of a signing. Say the Rangers sign Tavares, he's good for a couple of years but the team hasn't been successful enough. He probably still has trade value.
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    We have been sorely missing a legitimate stud center for quite some time. Take him in a heartbeat...or we could just fill our lineup with depth players and fail to win a cup every year. Look at every Stanley Cup winning squad and the pattern is clear, they all contain a 2 legitimately dangerous players that can create something every time they're on the ice. Lets stop wishing and take what we can get.

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    There is no way he is coming here, especially if this team is rebuilding. He is tired of losing with the Islanders, he is not going to want to go through it here either.

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    Tavares would dramatically accelerate that rebuild. He'd turn next seasons team into a guaranteed playoff club in all likelihood. And you can't discount the trade and UFA power that the Rangers possess that the Isles simply don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Tavares would dramatically accelerate that rebuild. He'd turn next seasons team into a guaranteed playoff club in all likelihood. And you can't discount the trade and UFA power that the Rangers possess that the Isles simply don't.


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    There is no way that just adding Tavares makes this team an automatic playoff team. The Islanders are a far better team than the Rangers, and they didn't make it with him. Islanders just didn't have goaltending, but had the offense whee here its the opposite. Plus, in all of NY sports history, through all 4 major sports, no franchise player has ever gone to their NY rival while in their prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    There is no way that just adding Tavares makes this team an automatic playoff team. The Islanders are a far better team than the Rangers, and they didn't make it with him. Islanders just didn't have goaltending, but had the offense whee here its the opposite. Plus, in all of NY sports history, through all 4 major sports, no franchise player has ever gone to their NY rival while in their prime.
    The Islanders are so much better than the Rangers that they are right next to them in the standings, and that is with Tavares.

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    I don't see him leaving but if he did I don't see him coming to another team that's not even remotely close to competing for a cup. He'll have plenty of better options where he could go to a contender. I would think some would be willing to clear whatever space they needed to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    There is no way that just adding Tavares makes this team an automatic playoff team. The Islanders are a far better team than the Rangers, and they didn't make it with him. Islanders just didn't have goaltending, but had the offense whee here its the opposite. Plus, in all of NY sports history, through all 4 major sports, no franchise player has ever gone to their NY rival while in their prime.
    Rangers had to sell everyone to become as shitty as the Islanders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    The Islanders are so much better than the Rangers that they are right next to them in the standings, and that is with Tavares.
    You can't seriously say that the two teams are even. Islanders are team with no goaltending, but a lot of good young players, and are a high scoring team. The rangers have no one that is an offensive threat, all they have is goaltending. Plus the Islanders destroyed the Rangers in the season series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Rangers had to sell everyone to become as shitty as the Islanders.

    Even before the sell off the Islanders were a better team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    You can't seriously say that the two teams are even. Islanders are team with no goaltending, but a lot of good young players, and are a high scoring team. The rangers have no one that is an offensive threat, all they have is goaltending. Plus the Islanders destroyed the Rangers in the season series.
    If they are that much better why are they missing the playoffs by 20 points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    If they are that much better why are they missing the playoffs by 20 points?
    Look at both rosters and tell me that they are equal or that the Rangers are a better team. Again, they had terrible goaltending, but also had 2 30+ goal scorers and 3 20+ goal scorers while the Rangers had 2 20+ goal scorers. They have 5 players who had more points than our top point getter. The Islanders have a lot of talent on that team and in the minors as well where the Rangers system is devoid of any top talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Look at both rosters and tell me that they are equal or that the Rangers are a better team. Again, they had terrible goaltending, but also had 2 30+ goal scorers and 3 20+ goal scorers while the Rangers had 2 20+ goal scorers. They have 5 players who had more points than our top point getter. The Islanders have a lot of talent on that team and in the minors as well where the Rangers system is devoid of any top talent.
    I never said the Rangers were a better team. You said the Islanders are far better, even though they are finishing right where we are.

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    History will be made! We need the cap space get either Tavares to help our depth at Center or Erik Karlsson to bulk up our defense, but both are big money

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Even before the sell off the Islanders were a better team.
    Look at the standings. Islanders are one point better with the roster they had at the beginning of the season while the Rangers have a bunch of college players.

    Islanders are not the better team. And more importantly, they're not the better organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Look at the standings. Islanders are one point better with the roster they had at the beginning of the season while the Rangers have a bunch of college players.

    Islanders are not the better team. And more importantly, they're not the better organization.
    And give them a good goaltender and do you still think they are only 1 point ahead of us? IMO, with a real goaltender, they are a threat for the cup. They are a better organization than us, just look at the players they have in their system and look at ours.

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