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    Dude's got a point. There's no magic formula and only 1 cup winner, success is success especially with a long playoff streak. I say 3-5 yrs to get back even with Tavares because of the uncertainty in how our youth perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Exactly. Carolina, Buffalo and Phoenix being prime examples of this. Damn they are dominant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    I mean, this is very specific.

    Do Scott Gomez and Bobby Holik not count?
    Brooks addressed those two in the same article saying

    Bobby Holik and Scott Gomez traded in Lou Lamoriello’s prison garb for the bright lights across the river and were hardly ever heard from again.
    Maybe he has a point ... such a movement of a franchise player from one cross-river rival to the other has never happened while said player was in his PRIME. Other greats came with elephant-in-the-room sized caveats--LaFontaine too was an accident waiting to happen and so was Lindross.

    That said, I think there's a slightly better chance than the one in 500 type odds Brooks is citing. Grabner happened, Healey happened. OK neither were franchise players, but with the turmoil of the last 5 years are Islanders are having a hard time just being a "franchise" with a home address. I won't hold my breath on this happening, but I'll keep a weather eye. I think this is a little different circumstance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Centers win championships.
    Defense wins championships, and they make your goalie that much better.

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    He's tired of losing with the Isles, so he'd come to the Rangers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamsim67 View Post
    Defense wins championships, and they make your goalie that much better.
    Not since 92
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Not since 92
    So defense is no longer important, just throw a dominant center into the fold and you're a contender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamsim67 View Post
    So defense is no longer important, just throw a dominant center into the fold and you're a contender?
    Crosby says #YOLO!

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    how many Crosby's are in the mix today? To me it's not one or the other you need both.

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    Great defense without a dominant center gets you the 12 and 15 Rangers...

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    and Taveras, Barzal and not much else gets you this years Islanders - with two elite centers putting up over 160 pts. Taveras and not much else gets you the Islanders since he joined the league. Missing the playoffs what 6 of 9 seasons. What have they won one playoff series with him?

    Saying just Crosby is not even close when there's a guy named Malkin as well as Crosby who's one of the best of all time. That's not JT by any stretch.
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    I hear you. I just think the dominant center is the harder problem to solve

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    Defense is a team game,
    Elite centers are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Defense is a team game,
    Elite centers are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Great defense without a dominant center gets you the 12 and 15 Rangers...
    When was the last time the Rangers had either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamsim67 View Post
    When was the last time the Rangers had either?
    12 & 15, no ?
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    Dominant centers and good defense are equally important. The latter is a little bit easier to come by. You can sometimes get an Anton Strolman off the scrap heap and make him into an excellent defenseman. You don't really get someone off the scrap heap and make him into a dominant center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sod16 View Post
    Dominant centers and good defense are equally important. The latter is a little bit easier to come by. You can sometimes get an Anton Strolman off the scrap heap and make him into an excellent defenseman. You don't really get someone off the scrap heap and make him into a dominant center.
    Right, because you can teach a defender how to defend positionally, of course some are better than others. Also, a coach is putting a system in place for the whole team. You can’t coach Hayes how to play like Crosby.
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