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    Boy does Tavares to Vegas ever make sense to me. They will need a good acquisition to maintain the buzz and avoid a sophomore let down. They have the cap space. For Tavares, it's a good team that should be pretty good for a while in town in the midst of a hockey frenzy. A bit better than playing to crowds of 9,000 on slush in Brooklyn for three years while some dudes lean on shovels out at Belmont...

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    want to revive this thread. with 25 mln in cap space could we pull this off?

    also given the shit show that ottawa is could we also grab Karlsson?

    i'd love this. would also like to monitor the matthews situation in toronto. the
    toronto beat writer was on nhl network this morning. seems trouble is brewing
    between babcock and matthews. he has one year at 950k on his contract and becomes
    an RFA. i wonder if you threw your whole draft board at the leafs this year would it be
    enough to pry him away.

    put these three guys on broadway and u can double the ticket prices and i wouldn't care.
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    ^^^ That last sentence is troubling. ^^^


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobberknocker View Post
    want to revive this thread. with 25 mln in cap space could we pull this off?

    also given the shit show that ottawa is could we also grab Karlsson?

    i'd love this. would also like to monitor the matthews situation in toronto. the
    toronto beat writer was on nhl network this morning. seems trouble is brewing
    between babcock and matthews. he has one year at 950k on his contract and becomes
    an RFA. i wonder if you threw your whole draft board at the leafs this year would it be
    enough to pry him away.

    put these three guys on broadway and u can double the ticket prices and i wouldn't care.
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    I was about to say no chance on Matthews... but how are his advanced stats? (Serious)
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    My question would be how much would the Cap hit be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    I was about to say no chance on Matthews... but how are his advanced stats? (Serious)
    Matthews?

    5v5 aggregate over the last two seasons:

    2.48 P/60 (points per 60 mins)
    2.22 P1/60 (primary points per 60 mins)
    50.75 CF%
    0.95 CF% rel (relative to teammates)
    52.26 xGF% (expected goals for percentage)
    1.69 xGF% rel (relative to teammates)
    103.09 PDO

    So, good, but not incredible, which is to be expected for star players who play against the other team's best players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rangers02 View Post
    My question would be how much would the Cap hit be?
    Tavares? Probably $11 million minimum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Unlike my expectations of the previous clown posse that general-managed the brooklyn coliseum icedancers, I don't see Lamoriello letting Tavares slip out of his grasp, do you?
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    I think he's going to do everything he can to keep him and given the absolutely boring nature that is NHL free agency, yeah, it'll probably work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    I think he's going to do everything he can to keep him and given the absolutely boring nature that is NHL free agency, yeah, it'll probably work.


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    What if John Tavares Signs with the Rangers

    I'm not either, but I do think it's more plausible than free agency ever getting back to what it was. The league is embracing more and more young, progressive GMs who didn't graduate from the Lou Lamoriello school of management and more clubs are thoroughly embracing youth movements. Something has to come to a head here. It can't possibly all fall on "draft better" means.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    I'm not either, but I do think it's more plausible than free agency ever getting back to what it was. The league is embracing more and more young, progressive GMs who didn't graduate from the Lou Lamoriello school of management and more clubs are thoroughly embracing youth movements. Something has to come to a head here. It can't possibly all fall on "draft better" means.


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    imo the game has passed Lamoriello by and his success was a long time ago pre-lockout and certainly analytics have since taken on a much larger role as time has gone on. Praying he drags Conte into the Isles mix to ensure a lack of success drafting going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Matthews?

    5v5 aggregate over the last two seasons:

    2.48 P/60 (points per 60 mins)
    2.22 P1/60 (primary points per 60 mins)
    50.75 CF%
    0.95 CF% rel (relative to teammates)
    52.26 xGF% (expected goals for percentage)
    1.69 xGF% rel (relative to teammates)
    103.09 PDO

    So, good, but not incredible, which is to be expected for star players who play against the other team's best players.


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    Hmm, so not as unlikely as I thought

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    NHL GMs have largely all subscribed to the same philosophy of not trespassing in others' yards. It's a very old school mentality that's largely to blame for the sheer lack of offer sheets made since the '05 lockout. Those who did, like Lowe, had their characters assassinated for it (though in his case, it doesn't appear worth saving).

    I think as you see more progressive GMs named (Chayka, Dubas, etc) you'll hopefully see an end put to those unwritten rules of old.


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