Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 55

Thread: Rangers Fansí Wallets Would Get Break with Letdown Season

  1. #21
    Formerly Dru23 BSBH Prospect
    NYR2711's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    West Babylon
    Posts
    13,344
    Rep Power
    78
    Quote Originally Posted by paddynyc View Post
    I heard the same thing and by creating packages they can generate more $$$. My kids are older and my oldest has finished college, works and buys his own ticket when we go to the game, but I'll pay for eats and drinks. However, he'll buy a beer for his dad and it is all worth it.

    I used to go with my dad when I had season tickets for the Rangers and I would pay for the tickets and he would pay for the food and drinks, but my kids are only 7 and 3, so I have a while until we can do this, lol.

  2. #22
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    I hear that they want to get rid of some season tickets. I heard that if someone doesn't renew their subscription, they aren't going to fill it because they don't have any single game tickets available, everything is almost all season subs. It costs me an arm and a leg to go to a game, but my kids love it, so I take them to 1 game a year. All New York sports are overpriced. Giants tickets are far worse than what the garden charges.
    True. The tickets that I own are the ones they want to. Center ice last row on the aisle. I actually picked up a fourth seat this past summer. When I got my bill the extra seat which was the aisle seat was not $90 it was $112. I called and asked wtf and they told me that market price as an individual seat was $112. It was already to late for me to back out so they stuck me with it.

    This is not drama. These are facts. They donít care that Iíve had tickets for 15 years. Iím not the only one. They are throwing away me to pursue marginal more money. They will come begging when they suck or after the next lockout when they need the loyal fan. To late,fuck them. I will gladly bring my kids to see the devils where they appreciate the business.

    My dad took me to games thatís how I became a fan then a season ticket holding customer. How many parents can take their kids to multiple games even one game a year? In the 80ís and 90ís ranger tickets werenít much more than a devil game. Now the ticket prices arenít even close yet both teams invest the same because of the cap in the product. Ranger fans are getting screwed by the nhl and Dolan. Itís a double pentration with no lube. It might not show up immediately but they are doing irreparable damage that they will regret.

  3. #23
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Two kids wife and yourself costs no less than $600 to go to a game and sit last row. Think about that. If you make $50k a year that’s $900 and change a week before taxes. That’s almost a full weeks take home pay to sit last row to go see the rangers in November. $100k half a weeks pay. Absurd.

  4. #24
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Two years ago it cost $350.

    That should help grow your customer base.

    Everybody questions the memo that was sent out. It wasn’t done in a vacuum. They know they have overplayed their hand.

    Best part is upon renewal which is due in two weeks. The rangers have let me know that if they don’t make the playoffs there will be no increase. If they do they might, they will let you know in August, after you have already paid 5 months of payments. Good business as long as your customers are content with getting ass raped.

  5. #25
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Oh and resale this year. In October their policy was to not allow tickets to be sold for less than 20% or so of face value on the ticket exchange to protect the season ticket holder. By November there was no baseline. Tickets could be posted for $5. People complained because the dynamic pricing made it impossible to sell your ticket if you couldn’t go. So they changed policy yet again mid season. Obviously the so called market they insist is there doesn’t exist. I had some tickets this year up for $25 and they didn’t sell.

    Good luck during your rebuild you selfish fuck Dolan.

  6. #26
    Senior Member Bantam Division
    Giacomin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    2,495
    Rep Power
    66
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    True. The tickets that I own are the ones they want to. Center ice last row on the aisle. I actually picked up a fourth seat this past summer. When I got my bill the extra seat which was the aisle seat was not $90 it was $112. I called and asked wtf and they told me that market price as an individual seat was $112. It was already to late for me to back out so they stuck me with it.

    This is not drama. These are facts. They don’t care that I’ve had tickets for 15 years. I’m not the only one. They are throwing away me to pursue marginal more money. They will come begging when they suck or after the next lockout when they need the loyal fan. To late,fuck them. I will gladly bring my kids to see the devils where they appreciate the business.

    My dad took me to games that’s how I became a fan then a season ticket holding customer. How many parents can take their kids to multiple games even one game a year? In the 80’s and 90’s ranger tickets weren’t much more than a devil game. Now the ticket prices aren’t even close yet both teams invest the same because of the cap in the product. Ranger fans are getting screwed by the nhl and Dolan. It’s a double pentration with no lube. It might not show up immediately but they are doing irreparable damage that they will regret.
    This is all spot on. There is a reason 4 professional sports are trillion dollar businesses, in this country. Parents introduce kids to the sports and teams, make it a part of their life, their home, their tradition. It becomes genuine and deep. However, the loyal customer should not be taken for granted, nor should the future fan support to the team or the sport. My kids could give a shit about any of the 4 leagues or the 4 teams I follow. And their friends are all the same.

    Josh, taking your kids to a game shouldn't require giving up family necessities if you are an upper middle class household. But the current situation does require it. In the long run, I think it is bad business. You obviously disagree.

    I contend MSG is a publicly owned and traded company that is now most concerned with quarterly profits and maybe annual returns. Not the long term interest of the fans or Ranger franchise. They tell you every conference call/meeting that all decisions are based on the interest of the shareholders first and only.
    Last edited by Giacomin; 02-14-2018 at 12:06 PM.

  7. #27
    Senior Member BSBH Prospect
    So Nashty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    10,366
    Rep Power
    42
    Puck is life and watching games live is awesome but why even get angry about the ticket prices? Nothing in NYC is cheap. Spend your money wisely. The cost of 3-4 games is what most people spend on a small vacation. No one is forcing you to be there and quite honestly with HD, a nice tv and a comfy couch its not a bad way to go for much less money.

    edit: not directing this at anyone just making an observation.

  8. #28
    Moderator Junior Division
    Future's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    6,320
    Rep Power
    127
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    True. The tickets that I own are the ones they want to. Center ice last row on the aisle. I actually picked up a fourth seat this past summer. When I got my bill the extra seat which was the aisle seat was not $90 it was $112. I called and asked wtf and they told me that market price as an individual seat was $112. It was already to late for me to back out so they stuck me with it.

    This is not drama. These are facts. They don’t care that I’ve had tickets for 15 years. I’m not the only one. They are throwing away me to pursue marginal more money. They will come begging when they suck or after the next lockout when they need the loyal fan. To late,fuck them. I will gladly bring my kids to see the devils where they appreciate the business.

    My dad took me to games that’s how I became a fan then a season ticket holding customer. How many parents can take their kids to multiple games even one game a year? In the 80’s and 90’s ranger tickets weren’t much more than a devil game. Now the ticket prices aren’t even close yet both teams invest the same because of the cap in the product. Ranger fans are getting screwed by the nhl and Dolan. It’s a double pentration with no lube. It might not show up immediately but they are doing irreparable damage that they will regret.
    This all seems really...tone deaf or something. I get it, higher ticket prices suck, but it's not like the Rangers owe you anything and I think it's a pretty significant case of self-entitlement if you think you deserve more than anybody else because you've been a ticket holder for 15 years. Hotels and airlines might give out loyalty rewards, but in-demand sports teams sure as hell don't.

    Your problem isn't with the Rangers, it is with the people who are willing to pay a lot more for a ticket than you, they're the ones pricing you out of your seat. If I was Dolan, or any other owner, I'd be doing the same thing, and the Devils don't appreciate your business any more than the Rangers. They care about dollars vs. seats, not who is paying for them.

    That's not to mention the fact that you're complaining about not being able to afford the most luxury of luxury items, and 4 of them to boot.

  9. #29
    Senior Member Bantam Division
    Giacomin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    2,495
    Rep Power
    66
    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    This all seems really...tone deaf or something. I get it, higher ticket prices suck, but it's not like the Rangers owe you anything and I think it's a pretty significant case of self-entitlement if you think you deserve more than anybody else because you've been a ticket holder for 15 years. Hotels and airlines might give out loyalty rewards, but in-demand sports teams sure as hell don't.

    Your problem isn't with the Rangers, it is with the people who are willing to pay a lot more for a ticket than you, they're the ones pricing you out of your seat. If I was Dolan, or any other owner, I'd be doing the same thing, and the Devils don't appreciate your business any more than the Rangers. They care about dollars vs. seats, not who is paying for them.

    That's not to mention the fact that you're complaining about not being able to afford the most luxury of luxury items, and 4 of them to boot.
    Yeah, but I mean where else is he supposed to complain but on a Ranger site on a thread about season tickets?

    You make good points, but is it really good long term business to extract every last bit of profit and goodwill from your customers? My experience has taught me different. The attitudes of corporate arrogance and hubris can be short lived if one takes your customers for granted or feel too entitled and feel you don't have to really earn it.

  10. #30
    Moderator Junior Division
    Future's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    6,320
    Rep Power
    127
    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin View Post
    Yeah, but I mean where else is he supposed to complain but on a Ranger site on a thread about season tickets?

    You make good points, but is it really good long term business to extract every last bit of profit and goodwill from your customers? My experience has taught me different. The attitudes of corporate arrogance and hubris can be short lived if one takes your customers for granted or feel too entitled and feel you don't have to really earn it.
    Well it's not the only thread he's said it lol, and I don't really disagree that it sucks, just think the anger is directed in the wrong place.

    Idk about corporate arrogance and hubris, but the second the Rangers can't fill seats, prices will go down. It's supply and demand, none of the emotional appeals matter. That might be true for a team like Carolina or Arizona who can't fill their arenas, but not the Rangers.

  11. #31
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    This all seems really...tone deaf or something. I get it, higher ticket prices suck, but it's not like the Rangers owe you anything and I think it's a pretty significant case of self-entitlement if you think you deserve more than anybody else because you've been a ticket holder for 15 years. Hotels and airlines might give out loyalty rewards, but in-demand sports teams sure as hell don't.

    Your problem isn't with the Rangers, it is with the people who are willing to pay a lot more for a ticket than you, they're the ones pricing you out of your seat. If I was Dolan, or any other owner, I'd be doing the same thing, and the Devils don't appreciate your business any more than the Rangers. They care about dollars vs. seats, not who is paying for them.

    That's not to mention the fact that you're complaining about not being able to afford the most luxury of luxury items, and 4 of them to boot.
    Thank you for enlightening me. This is a ranger blog and a memo “concerning” the fans was just sent out. I’m over being angry, I’m done. I thought posting my experiences with having tickets might be useful for somebody who hasn’t dealt with them. Prices are prices. Agreeing to pay them is nothing to complain about after the fact. Changing the terms of those agreements after you are already locked in and can’t get out is unethical at best.

    I’m done with buying tickets. My point about the devils is only stating that if my kids want to see an nhl game we will go there because that is what I can afford.

    You also don’t know the ass kissing and appreciation the rangers and the league showed after the lockout. The stance of never forgetting their loyal customers. Quite frankly that is not the people sitting at home. They are important and I will now become one of them. The rangers have long ago forgot what they preached after the lockout.

    Entitled? Not quite. I own my own business and work everyday of my life. I truly believe they are making a mistake. Prices are what they are and their prerogative. However their stance and it is their corporate stance of no longer valuing season ticket holders will come back to bite them in the ass, especially in the down years.

    I won’t post anymore about this subject because my posts were meant to inform, not complain, or be entitled. But of course others on here already know everything about a season ticket holders experience rather than the people that actually had that experience before the lockout, after, and now.

    Somebody started a post titled season ticket holders getting a break in the wallet in which I’ve decided to join the discussion. Honestly it would be great to hear from another season ticket holder who actually is effected by this.

    Funny how my opinion, at least in your eyes, is the only one not worth at least an once of thought other than to demean.

    So apparently discussing this subject in a thread dedicated to this exact subject was wrong by me.

  12. #32
    Russian Meddling BSBH Rookie
    josh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    24,092
    Rep Power
    234
    why dont you do the most businessman-like thing and sell them online?


    Did you expect that your ticket prices would never increase, and you'd get 2 more season tickets next to your current seats, because you had kids, and you would sit there as a family when you were 80 years old?
    Lias Andersson for #AJT2019

  13. #33
    Senior Member Bantam Division
    Giacomin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    2,495
    Rep Power
    66
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    I won’t post anymore about this subject because my posts were meant to inform, not complain, or be entitled. But of course others on here already know everything about a season ticket holders experience rather than the people that actually had that experience before the lockout, after, and now.

    Somebody started a post titled season ticket holders getting a break in the wallet in which I’ve decided to join the discussion. Honestly it would be great to hear from another season ticket holder who actually is effected by this.

    So apparently discussing this subject in a thread dedicated to this exact subject was wrong by me.
    No, I found your posts on the subject insightful and informative and valuable. That is why I defended the content of your posts. You, me and others should not let those who disagree stop us from making sense and adding a different perspective and vantage point to the concern. That is what the Russians are trying to do!!!!

    You also have to find humor in people with less experience with the Ranger's, tickets, family and running businesses to constantly tell us we do not understand business. I've owned mukltiple successful businesses, FYI.
    Last edited by Giacomin; 02-14-2018 at 01:57 PM.

  14. #34
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    I do. Have for years. With dynamic pricing you can’t sell them at anything close to face value. The market they say is there doesn’t exist. The season ticket holders are propping up their resale market because what do they care if they put a $178 price tag on a December devils game. You might be able to move it for $80-$90. But the idea that without the season ticket holder they can continue charging $178 for a game in December doesn’t hold water. Those tickets would not sell.

    I’m not getting into it. You guys know everything about even things you have zero knowledge of. I’m not going to continue to respond with actual thoughts. Only to be derided as entitled or tone deaf. It’s not like this is a thread dedicated to a discussion like that anyway

  15. #35
    Moderator Junior Division
    Future's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    6,320
    Rep Power
    127
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Thank you for enlightening me. This is a ranger blog and a memo “concerning” the fans was just sent out. I’m over being angry, I’m done. I thought posting my experiences with having tickets might be useful for somebody who hasn’t dealt with them. Prices are prices. Agreeing to pay them is nothing to complain about after the fact. Changing the terms of those agreements after you are already locked in and can’t get out is unethical at best.

    I’m done with buying tickets. My point about the devils is only stating that if my kids want to see an nhl game we will go there because that is what I can afford.

    You also don’t know the ass kissing and appreciation the rangers and the league showed after the lockout. The stance of never forgetting their loyal customers. Quite frankly that is not the people sitting at home. They are important and I will now become one of them. The rangers have long ago forgot what they preached after the lockout.

    Entitled? Not quite. I own my own business and work everyday of my life. I truly believe they are making a mistake. Prices are what they are and their prerogative. However their stance and it is their corporate stance of no longer valuing season ticket holders will come back to bite them in the ass, especially in the down years.

    I won’t post anymore about this subject because my posts were meant to inform, not complain, or be entitled. But of course others on here already know everything about a season ticket holders experience rather than the people that actually had that experience before the lockout, after, and now.

    Somebody started a post titled season ticket holders getting a break in the wallet in which I’ve decided to join the discussion. Honestly it would be great to hear from another season ticket holder who actually is effected by this.

    Funny how my opinion, at least in your eyes, is the only one not worth at least an once of thought other than to demean.

    So apparently discussing this subject in a thread dedicated to this exact subject was wrong by me.
    You can discuss this all you want, go ahead. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. But let's not act like this is the only time you have complained about the ticket prices.

    Idk what you're talking about in the bolded, so, whatever.

  16. #36
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    And just to be clear I don’t have four seats by myself I have two others that split them with me. We are all out. The people sitting next to me are out. Another friend who originally shared my seats bought bar stool seats with two friends and he’s worse off than us. He’s out. Another friend who has had tickets in his family 50+ years is out. Most are out because of dynamic pricing, not ticket average prices.

    DynAmic pricing allows for the Panthers game to be $56 face value, you can get your money back on that. When the pens, Bruins, leafs, whatever high demand game comes up they price it to points where you cannot sell it. They would only allow you to sell for 20% less than face. That is the floor. The floor is still to high a price for people to buy. That’s why the changed it to no floor. Of course they have a bad year and even $30 won’t sell sometimes.

    I know I know you don’t buy the tickets to sell. I can’t make 41 games. In a good year before kids I’d go to 30. But when you can’t go you need to be able to move them. They took that away.

    I’m telling you problems are coming if they stay the course. That is not complaining those are facts.

    The memo happened for a reason. People are doing exactly what they hoped.

  17. #37
    Senior Member Pee-Wee Division
    Fatfrancesa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    746
    Rep Power
    19
    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    You can discuss this all you want, go ahead. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. But let's not act like this is the only time you have complained about the ticket prices.

    Idk what you're talking about in the bolded, so, whatever.
    Significant case of self entitlement, tone deaf? No idea?

  18. #38
    Russian Meddling BSBH Rookie
    josh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    24,092
    Rep Power
    234
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    I do. Have for years. With dynamic pricing you can’t sell them at anything close to face value. The market they say is there doesn’t exist. The season ticket holders are propping up their resale market because what do they care if they put a $178 price tag on a December devils game. You might be able to move it for $80-$90. But the idea that without the season ticket holder they can continue charging $178 for a game in December doesn’t hold water. Those tickets would not sell.

    I’m not getting into it. You guys know everything about even things you have zero knowledge of. I’m not going to continue to respond with actual thoughts. Only to be derided as entitled or tone deaf. It’s not like this is a thread dedicated to a discussion like that anyway
    Obviously none of us have ever seen increased prices that made us re-evaluate our priorities and expenses like cellphone bills, cable bills, internet, insurance, season tickets to other sports/teams other than the Rangers, brazzers, netflix, parking, property tax, etc
    Lias Andersson for #AJT2019

  19. #39
    Moderator Junior Division
    Future's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    6,320
    Rep Power
    127
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    Significant case of self entitlement, tone deaf? No idea?
    I think it is, sorry if you took that as demeaning. It's not meant to be, just my interpretation of what you said. I mean, can you at least admit that, at most, it's an extreme first-world problem.

    I think it's also pretty demeaning that you think nobody else understands budgeting when recreational expenses change lol
    Last edited by Future; 02-14-2018 at 02:15 PM.

  20. #40
    Senior Member BSBH Prospect
    Blue Heaven's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Queens
    Posts
    10,057
    Rep Power
    97
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatfrancesa View Post
    I do. Have for years. With dynamic pricing you canít sell them at anything close to face value. The market they say is there doesnít exist. The season ticket holders are propping up their resale market because what do they care if they put a $178 price tag on a December devils game. You might be able to move it for $80-$90. But the idea that without the season ticket holder they can continue charging $178 for a game in December doesnít hold water. Those tickets would not sell.

    Iím not getting into it. You guys know everything about even things you have zero knowledge of. Iím not going to continue to respond with actual thoughts. Only to be derided as entitled or tone deaf. Itís not like this is a thread dedicated to a discussion like that anyway
    I sold every game for face or above face value except for 4 games, and those games were Rangers vs. Devils (10/14), Penguins (10/17), Islanders (10/19), and Predators (10/21). All these games were in the midst of the Rangers not winning games in the beginning of the season and the Yankees in the playoffs. I havent been to a game since the Arizona game (10/26) b/c I was able to sell all my tickets. It does suck that they do dynamic pricing but thats the way sports is going. Yankees/Mets do it, I believe the Islanders do it, so why shouldnt the Rangers do it? It does suck that we (season tix holders) cant make as much money b/c of the dynamic pricing but the teams have every right to make as much money and not have the season ticket holder benefit. Its rough for me to pay for season tickets but as long as I break even or make some money to pay for playoffs or the next season then thats what i will do. The day that I lose $$$ will be the day that I am out as a season ticket holder.
    '
    My favorite games to go to were the Flyers/Islander games when the ticket prices were more affordable (4-5 years ago), but now they are the games that I can make a significant profit to off-set the cost of the games that I sell at face/below face or have to eat. I havent been to a Rangers/Islanders or Flyers game in like 3-4 years. Whatever games don't sell are the one's that I go to as my games for the year which ends up being 4-8 games a year. This year i've been to 5 all in October.
    Last edited by Blue Heaven; 02-14-2018 at 02:19 PM.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •