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    I would like to see our young players under a new coach before writing them off.

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    You can put anyone back there, it doesn't change that most are in roles well above them due to lack of top-end talent.

    Kreider -1st line complementary player
    Zibanejad - not a 1st liner
    Buchnevich - not a first liner
    Holden - not a top pair defender

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    You can put anyone back there, it doesn't change that most are in roles well above them due to lack of top-end talent.

    Kreider -1st line complementary player
    Zibanejad - not a 1st liner
    Buchnevich - not a first liner
    Holden - not a top pair defender
    I think Zib CAN be a 1st line talent... On the wing or with a legit 1st line winger. We've yet to get a full healthy season out of him. When he starts the season he looks like an all world talent. Then he gets hurt and looks like a shell of that player. Maybe its him adapting to the coaches style of play. It always seems to seep in for anyone who shoots at will, plays physical, or likes to carry the puck... All of which Zib is known for..

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    Your #1 C needs to drive the offense. He needs to be solid defensively, and he needs to be a threat every time he steps on the ice.

    Why not let the dude be good what hes good at - skating and getting in scoring position.

    I dont like when he plays the point on the PP, but he shoots, he gets in scoring position, and when he's thinking offense, he creeps towards the net and get great scoring opportunities

    Just imagine him on the wing, "cheating" a bit, ala Kreider or Grabner to get those offensive break/aways... I think thats where he will be the most effective. (I'm not looking, but I almost remember Sens fans saying he was better on the wing - but I didnt watch Ottawa enough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Your #1 C needs to drive the offense. He needs to be solid defensively, and he needs to be a threat every time he steps on the ice.

    Why not let the dude be good what hes good at - skating and getting in scoring position.

    I dont like when he plays the point on the PP, but he shoots, he gets in scoring position, and when he's thinking offense, he creeps towards the net and get great scoring opportunities

    Just imagine him on the wing, "cheating" a bit, ala Kreider or Grabner to get those offensive break/aways... I think thats where he will be the most effective. (I'm not looking, but I almost remember Sens fans saying he was better on the wing - but I didnt watch Ottawa enough)
    Totally agree. I think a move back to wing would let him do what he does best. Bad part about that is that hes pretty solid on draws (no stats on hand to back that, sorry/lazy). I hate using forwards on the point on the PP. Really haye it. They usually suck at keeping the puck in and delay their shot.

    Some will say thats bunk because he essentially can go where ever he wants offensively, after the puck is dropped. Thats what was said by someone (i think mikey) when I suggested at the start of yhe season that Miller would be more effective back at center (that worked out well ehhh?).

    Im not sure if Zib played better on wing or not. I think some here suggested early on that he never played wing. Im pretty darn sure he did.
    Last edited by The Dude; 02-15-2018 at 11:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thes5 View Post
    I would like to see our young players under a new coach before writing them off.
    THIS!!! RIGHT HERE!!!

    I've been thinking this since....well, I can't even remember. It's like they're all poisoned with Pussification. (is that even a word?)

    This is a stubborn bastard. His only adjustments he ever makes is shuffling lines.

    HOW ABOUT GETTING THE PUCK DEEP IN THE OPPONENTS ZONE????
    You know....Dump and chase for a little bit??? You know, switch it up every 40 games or so, if the same "pass first/carry the puck/fast break/no shots" bullshit doesn't work for 55 minutes every game????????

    It's not like every NHL team has scouted your retarded, stubborn, fucking tendencies by now!

    This guy is his own worst enemy...I don't want these kids poisoned by this friggin' guy. But on the other hand....

    I'm glad to see he's back there the rest of the way though; GUARANTEED TANKING in progress!!!!

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    Zibanejad on the wing could be a better fit but they had better acquire a couple of centers who can play at a nhl level. Of course they desperately need a top center but those are the hardest to find and very hard to pry away from other teams.

    Just a thought but maybe the oilers would entertain a draisitl trade. It would cost a ton. Maybe mcd, zib or miller or Kreider and 2nd or 3rd.

    They would get finally a top defenseman they desperately need and either zib to play in a better suited second line center position or miller or Kreider who can ride shotgun with Mcdavid, especially Kreider. The rangers would have their number 1 center who is under 23 and could build around.

    Probably way to many barriers to a trade like this but Gorton and Chiarelli have history in Boston. Get talking and this could be a starting point of a possible deal that helps both teams.

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    I'd be fine going Tavares - Hayes - Andersson - 4th line Center


    Solid depth with a legit 1C.

    Moving Zibanejad to wing to have Tyler Bozak be your number 1 doesnt change much.

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    Tavares would be nice but you’d have to have him locked up and signed before you could really do much to your roster before signing day at least imo. I’m sure the rangers will make an offer to him but I’m not sure he wants to become so hated by his current fan base and become such a lightning rod being the savior here. Not sure that’s in his personality. If he does hit ufa though I’m sure the rangers will inquire but my gut says he stays put but if he moves it’s to a team who already are contending or at least are trending that way.

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    Zib has been playing like a sniper rather than a playmaker this season. I don't know if that means he should really be on the wing, but we obviously don't have that option and won't until we have acquired three new quality centers. He seems to be all about having others set him up for one timers these days.

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