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    The Kid Rock issue is this simple:

    The NHL, despite being a traditionally conservative organization, has been at the forefront of progressively inclusive initiatives like You Can Play. They've invested a lot of equity in presenting themselves as a forward-thinking product that is building new bridges.

    Kid Rock has made anti gay and anti trans overtures repeatedly over his career.

    That's it. The two do not mix. Hard stop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    The Kid Rock issue is this simple:

    The NHL, despite being a traditionally conservative organization, has been at the forefront of progressively inclusive initiatives like You Can Play. They've invested a lot of equity in presenting themselves as a forward-thinking product that is building new bridges.

    Kid Rock has made anti gay and anti trans overtures repeatedly over his career.

    That's it. The two do not mix. Hard stop.


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    The dissection of everyone in this day and age continues. I could really care less about this but give me a break with the anti-gay stuff. He is an entertainer. So many of them say stupid shit all the time. Why does anyone actually give a shit what he has to say? He's performing because the NHL would think his music is what viewers want. They're not putting him up there because he might be anti-gay. You're putting all these issues together when it's not meant to be that way...at all. He's performing simply because someone thought his music/act is appealing to the viewers.

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    Because he's a representative of the NHL as their guest, and a reflection of the values the company holds (or doesn't) as a result.

    Again, you cannot in good conscience claim to champion gender issues and sexual equal rights while simultaneously promoting artists who are outspoken against these things. They are in direct conflict with one another.

    To put it another way, this would be like the NHL inviting Hulk Hogan, who is a Lightning fan from Florida, to show face at the festivities while pouring money into black community affairs to grow the game among Afrifan Americans. You can complain that everyone is offended by the act of inviting a celebrity to the game who brazenly called blacks niggers, but there'd rightfully be an avalanche of scrutiny thrown the NHL's way for doing so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    The dissection of everyone in this day and age continues. I could really care less about this but give me a break with the anti-gay stuff. He is an entertainer. So many of them say stupid shit all the time. Why does anyone actually give a shit what he has to say? He's performing because the NHL would think his music is what viewers want. They're not putting him up there because he might be anti-gay. You're putting all these issues together when it's not meant to be that way...at all. He's performing simply because someone thought his music/act is appealing to the viewers.
    Exactly. Then why does it matter to you that someone else does care and takes exception to him being the musical guest?

    He's got a checkered past at the very least. No, the NHL is not promoting an anti-gay or anti-women agenda but if you're looking to draw a wide audience and catch a few new eyes, you'd probably be better off not gaining negative attention for it. Each sport has it's own culture. You're trying to promote that culture to a new audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Exactly. Then why does it matter to you that someone else does care and takes exception to him being the musical guest?

    He's got a checkered past at the very least. No, the NHL is not promoting an anti-gay or anti-women agenda but if you're looking to draw a wide audience and catch a few new eyes, you'd probably be better off not gaining negative attention for it. Each sport has it's own culture. You're trying to promote that culture to a new audience.
    lol, they had snoop dogg perform last year. I don't recall an outrage over that.
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    Snoop Dogg remains a media darling In sense. Its absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    lol, they had snoop dogg perform last year. I don't recall an outrage over that.
    Really? Lol. Yup, don’t remember anyone up in arms of that.




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    At the time, what reason did they have to be up in arms? I'm genuinely curious. He performed, and was chosen to, well before his "Make America Crip Again" controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    At the time, what reason did they have to be up in arms? I'm genuinely curious. He performed, and was chosen to, well before his "Make America Crip Again" controversy.

    Family entertainment?



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    I heard on the radio this morning, regarding a different topic, and one of the guys said "Dont you remember when we didnt care about getting so dramatic about these things? Remember when we used to laugh at the people that did?"


    Guys, he's not going to get more people to hate transexuals from he's performing at the NHL all star game for 6 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    At the time, what reason did they have to be up in arms? I'm genuinely curious. He performed, and was chosen to, well before his "Make America Crip Again" controversy.
    I don't follow either of these guys these days, I don't know Snoops personal views. I actually didn't know Kid Rock's stance on controversial issues until those offended shed some light on it. I've read in the recent past Snoop having a history of threatening people on social media, was he serious? Who the hell knows. Can we take any of these "entertainers" seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Family entertainment?


    LOL, is that real content (not dubbed over)? If so the NHL should be ashamed.

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    Since the All Star Weekend is in Florida, they should have hit up Stitches, although he's more a Miami guy than Tampa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    They'd be better off with convicted felon Snoop Dogg dropping N bombs on the stage.

    Now there's an artist I would like my children to look up to.


    At least he doesn't support a battle flag from 150 years ago.
    Or Beyonce with her Black Panther BS badmouthing cops during Super Bowl halftime.

    Didn't watch that, probably won't watch this because All Star games are stupid antiques nobody cares about any more. Also, wasn't offended because Beyonce is an asshole. Also that "Single Ladies" song they play at every wedding is the shittiest thing ever inflicted on my ears.

    Is everyone going to spend their days figuring out what and who offends them each day? Children and sheep.
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    There's a lot of conflating going on here attempting to smear an image conscious league with the irrational offense-taking of the individual. They're not the same thing. What the NHL is doing is rush assessment based on a billion dollar industry. What you or I find offensive or not, is mostly flirting.

    The NHL has a lot at stake, monetarily speaking, in entities like the ASG. As such, they have to be calculated in what they support or don't support, because it's their bottom line on the line.

    Sociak Justice Sally doesn't matter. Not as an individual. But her grievance might if it's echoed by an Army — especially if they army is made up of the NHL's own viewers.


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    The NFL learned a hard lesson about this this past season regarding their audience and its threshold for anthem protests.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    Exactly. Then why does it matter to you that someone else does care and takes exception to him being the musical guest?

    He's got a checkered past at the very least. No, the NHL is not promoting an anti-gay or anti-women agenda but if you're looking to draw a wide audience and catch a few new eyes, you'd probably be better off not gaining negative attention for it. Each sport has it's own culture. You're trying to promote that culture to a new audience.
    You're right. I shouldn't even have bothered posting that because it's touching too much on the reasons why I've stayed away from the political threads here. All-star games in general are basically unwatchable. I have never heard of someone becoming a fan of the NHL because of what they saw in an all-star game...including the performer.

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    All-star games are mostly unwatchable. But the weekends are big hits at the local level. They absolutely make new fans. Especially kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    The NFL learned a hard lesson about this this past season regarding their audience and its threshold for anthem protests.


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    They have Ray Lewis and Mike Vick doing pre-game commentary. They have Mike Tirico announcing games.
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