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    Jaguars, Ravens Players Kneel During Anthem to Protest Trump

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    I can respect that. Protest without kneeling though, at least do that much.

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    Why? The point of a protest is to not do what you're supposed to (in this case).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    Why? The point of a protest is to not do what you're supposed to (in this case).


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    Yeah, but we all can have respect for this symbol that represents our values. Start from that premise, work from there. Maybe they see the flag as representing oppressive values, I dunno.

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    Fuck em all.

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    NFL stands by Ray Lewis and several other guys that murder people... just dont say mean things!

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    Ray Lewis is a f'n hypocrite. Wasn't Kaepernick going to be signed by the Ravens as a backup but Ray Lewis got in the ear of the GM or owner that he shouldn't be signed, then the Ravens reneged on the deal. Now Ray Lewis is kneeling at the anthem, something that Kaepernick started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Heaven View Post
    Ray Lewis is a f'n hypocrite. Wasn't Kaepernick going to be signed by the Ravens as a backup but Ray Lewis got in the ear of the GM or owner that he shouldn't be signed, then the Ravens reneged on the deal. Now Ray Lewis is kneeling at the anthem, something that Kaepernick started.
    Actually he was pulling for him but supposedly Kaepernicks girl friend made a comment on social media about Lewis (some uncle Tom BS), due to the fact that Lewis had management's ear.. He would have had the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Actually he was pulling for him but supposedly Kaepernicks girl friend made a comment on social media about Lewis (some uncle Tom BS), due to the fact that Lewis had management's ear.. He would have had the job.
    This is true ,his own girl cost him a few million

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Heaven View Post
    Ray Lewis is a f'n hypocrite. Wasn't Kaepernick going to be signed by the Ravens as a backup but Ray Lewis got in the ear of the GM or owner that he shouldn't be signed, then the Ravens reneged on the deal. Now Ray Lewis is kneeling at the anthem, something that Kaepernick started.
    Listen to Shannon Sharpe's comments. He talks about Ray Lewis saying he would never kneel, then this happened.
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    Publicity. Like everyone else that's done it.

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    Every American has the right to protest. I dont see how this is disrespectful. Had they put in head phones or started blasting another song over the anthem then we could talk. They PEACEFULLY chose to stand down as a sign of protest to bring attention to an issue that they feel is important.

    Seems like this is always the case in instances like this.. Someone says something isn't perfect in America and rather than calmly discussing its merits and the reasons behind such a claim, there is immediately this idiotic discussion about how unamerican someone is. As if that has anything to do with it.

    Oh and btw if youre going to have a fit about a couple of guys "disrespecting" the national anthem lets also have one about all of the ways our consumer culture disrespects the flag on almost a daily basis as well;

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b06ddf45f867a0

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    I can respect that. Protest without kneeling though, at least do that much.

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    but the kneel IS the protest. How else would they be protesting if they just stood there? lol

    not trying to argue just dont get what you mean there

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    Quote Originally Posted by So Nashty View Post
    Every American has the right to protest. I dont see how this is disrespectful. Had they put in head phones or started blasting another song over the anthem then we could talk. They PEACEFULLY chose to stand down as a sign of protest to bring attention to an issue that they feel is important.

    Seems like this is always the case in instances like this.. Someone says something isn't perfect in America and rather than calmly discussing its merits and the reasons behind such a claim, there is immediately this idiotic discussion about how unamerican someone is. As if that has anything to do with it.

    Oh and btw if youre going to have a fit about a couple of guys "disrespecting" the national anthem lets also have one about all of the ways our consumer culture disrespects the flag on almost a daily basis as well;

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b06ddf45f867a0



    but the kneel IS the protest. How else would they be protesting if they just stood there? lol

    not trying to argue just dont get what you mean there
    Typical modern day liberal protest - no one knows what they're protesting or why

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Typical modern day liberal protest - no one knows what they're protesting or why
    The NFL is protesting because the president told them not to. So the billionaire owners and the millionaire players are proving a point that no one tells them what to do. Where was the solidarity during the 8000 other things they could have been protesting? The NFL cares about 1 thing. $$$. The military pays them for advertisement, that's why they "support" our troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Typical modern day liberal protest - no one knows what they're protesting or why
    There is actually a very clear and defined reason they are protesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So Nashty View Post
    There is actually a very clear and defined reason they are protesting.
    About 5% of our posts even mention the issue. None of them talk about it or discuss solutions.

    Message lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh View Post
    Publicity. Like everyone else that's done it.
    You mean like the constant publicity that the twerp in the white house craves with his idiotic, juvenile and inflammatory comments and tweets? But wait, he said make America great again a bunch of times, so he must be a patriot!

    On a side note, how fucking ironic is it that liberals are being called out for being "snowflakes" for just about EVERYTHING they do these days, yet in the white house sits the biggest snowflake that has ever been in a position of high power. Someone who's been coddled by guards and luxury his entire life and hasn't sacrificed jack shit for this country. Except he was elected by a bunch of alt-right racists and lunatics, so it doesn't count, right?

    Anyone who stands up to this guy is doing good in my book, because when you have someone in the white house with such blatant disregard for anyone not directly enriching his life, it's the least you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myusername View Post
    You mean like the constant publicity that the twerp in the white house craves with his idiotic, juvenile and inflammatory comments and tweets? But wait, he said make America great again a bunch of times, so he must be a patriot!

    On a side note, how fucking ironic is it that liberals are being called out for being "snowflakes" for just about EVERYTHING they do these days, yet in the white house sits the biggest snowflake that has ever been in a position of high power. Someone who's been coddled by guards and luxury his entire life and hasn't sacrificed jack shit for this country. Except he was elected by a bunch of alt-right racists and lunatics, so it doesn't count, right?

    Anyone who stands up to this guy is doing good in my book, because when you have someone in the white house with such blatant disregard for anyone not directly enriching his life, it's the least you can do.
    Inner have the guys kneeling to show hate for trump didn't vote. Same with the people on twitter.

    And you hear about Trump more because it gets hits/ratings/eyes. YOU are causing it. Liberals are causing it with their obsession with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myusername View Post
    You mean like the constant publicity that the twerp in the white house craves with his idiotic, juvenile and inflammatory comments and tweets? But wait, he said make America great again a bunch of times, so he must be a patriot!

    On a side note, how fucking ironic is it that liberals are being called out for being "snowflakes" for just about EVERYTHING they do these days, yet in the white house sits the biggest snowflake that has ever been in a position of high power. Someone who's been coddled by guards and luxury his entire life and hasn't sacrificed jack shit for this country. Except he was elected by a bunch of alt-right racists and lunatics, so it doesn't count, right?

    Anyone who stands up to this guy is doing good in my book, because when you have someone in the white house with such blatant disregard for anyone not directly enriching his life, it's the least you can do.
    I don't get that if you voted for Trump your a racist and alt-right. I didn't vote for him or Hillary, but I get why others did vote for him. There wasn't a good choice between the two, and people were sick of Hillary. She should have won this election easily, but she was too unlikable.

    The one thing that really gets me is that when Tebow kneeled, he got flack from the liberals, but now that people are complaining about these players taking a knee, the liberals are going after those complaining now. Its always a double standard. If it falls under the liberal agenda, then your wrong for not supporting t, but if its against the liberal agenda, your a racist and alt-right and full of hate. I mean look at Spector calling the Penguins racist because they are going to the Whitehouse. The reason for going got lost. Everyone jumped on Tim Thomas for skipping the Whitehouse, now they are jumping on the Pens for going to the Whitehouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    I don't get that if you voted for Trump your a racist and alt-right. I didn't vote for him or Hillary, but I get why others did vote for him. There wasn't a good choice between the two, and people were sick of Hillary. She should have won this election easily, but she was too unlikable.

    The one thing that really gets me is that when Tebow kneeled, he got flack from the liberals, but now that people are complaining about these players taking a knee, the liberals are going after those complaining now. Its always a double standard. If it falls under the liberal agenda, then your wrong for not supporting t, but if its against the liberal agenda, your a racist and alt-right and full of hate. I mean look at Spector calling the Penguins racist because they are going to the Whitehouse. The reason for going got lost. Everyone jumped on Tim Thomas for skipping the Whitehouse, now they are jumping on the Pens for going to the Whitehouse.

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