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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRangers723 View Post
    not true at all. Fast isnt getting anything big and zib will probably be 4.5-5 mil per. Plus they could trade holden for more space
    Apparently only 7.7 million left in cap space. Zibbs at 5 and Fast at 2.5 puts us right up against the cap. Klein retiring and/or dumping Holden would free up some but not enough to do anything else major.

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    @CapFriendly: W/ Shattenkirk at 6.65M and Pavelec at 1.3M, we show the #Rangers with 8.35M in cap space (9F 8D 2G)
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    8.35 with 4 more forwards to sign. I'm guessing Zeb and Fast take most of that, do not much wiggle room.



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    Quote Originally Posted by rmc51 View Post
    Apparently only 7.7 million left in cap space. Zibbs at 5 and Fast at 2.5 puts us right up against the cap. Klein retiring and/or dumping Holden would free up some but not enough to do anything else major.
    If you dump Holden and Klein retires then you have to go get a defensemen who will cost around 750k-1m range anyways that or 1 of Graves/DeAngelo are sitting in the box every night as the 7th and i dont see why the Rangers would want their young dmen in a 7th role -- Better off just hanging onto Holden at 1.65 unless your getting overpaid for his value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Close to no cap room? we're @ 8.35, 11.25 when Klein retires, 12.9 if they can get Holden traded. -5.5 for Zib and 2 for fast and we're @ 5.9 left to play with.
    5.9 to play with, but that leaves with only 6 defenseman signed, 2 goaltenders, and 10 forwards.
    Need 3 more forwards and one defenseman to complete roster


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    That type of a contract will be easy to move, unless he has NTC.
    Rebuild Mode.

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    I don't get it. I know Shattenkirk went after the Rangers but I don't understand, Hayes and Zibanejad as our centers? LOL. Now Miller has to play in the middle as our 3rd?

    What the actual fuck? Dumpster diving for two Centermen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    5.9 to play with, but that leaves with only 6 defenseman signed, 2 goaltenders, and 10 forwards.
    Need 3 more forwards and one defenseman to complete roster
    No, my 5.9 was with 11 forwards. Kampfer can be the 7th D at $650k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    I don't get it. I know Shattenkirk went after the Rangers but I don't understand, Hayes and Zibanejad as our centers? LOL. Now Miller has to play in the middle as our 3rd?

    What the actual fuck? Dumpster diving for two Centermen?
    I like the Girgorenko idea.

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    Great deal, great terms. Nothing to complain about on this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    No, my 5.9 was with 11 forwards. Kampfer can be the 7th D at $650k
    Can you list players ?
    Cap geek has it otherwise


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    The fact that he is only signed until he is 32, and at a manageable cap hit for the value he provides makes this potentially one of our best free agent signings. We're not tied up with big money on any aging defender except for Staal, now.


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    Unreal. We've heard of a hometown discount before but I don't know if we've ever seen one like this. Great great signing. Best I can remember in a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
    Can you list players ?
    Cap geek has it otherwise


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    Yes capgeek shows 9 forwards signed. My estimated $5.9m was after resigning Zib and Fast. After resigning them we'll have 11 signed forwards.

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    @frank_seravalli: Shattenkirk details #NYR:
    NMC + Mod-NTC
    2017-18: $8M
    2018-19: $7.6M
    2019-20: $7M
    2020-21: $4M (incl $2M SB lockout protection)
    AAV: $6.65M

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    I know a big stink is going to be made of the NMC/NTC, but if I haven't driven this home yet, I'll try again — they're a form of currency, especially in UFA that premium free agents will not sign a deal without. Especially not in a deal like this where he clearly left years and millions on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long live the King View Post
    Yes capgeek shows 9 forwards signed. My estimated $5.9m was after resigning Zib and Fast. After resigning them we'll have 11 signed forwards.
    So two more forwards and one defenseman need to be signed, (you removed Holden and Klein)


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    It's funny and sad that his deal has some sort of lockout protection


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    Most long-term contracts being signed now have them. Players are smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia View Post
    @frank_seravalli: Shattenkirk details #NYR:
    NMC + Mod-NTC
    2017-18: $8M
    2018-19: $7.6M
    2019-20: $7M
    2020-21: $4M (incl $2M SB lockout protection)
    AAV: $6.65M

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    I know a big stink is going to be made of the NMC/NTC, but if I haven't driven this home yet, I'll try again — they're a form of currency, especially in UFA that premium free agents will not sign a deal without. Especially not in a deal like this where he clearly left years and millions on the table.
    No problem with an NMC in this case. The guy wants to live and play in NY...he wanted to be sure he isn't moved on a whim and in exchange he gave up years and $$$.

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    Exactly. This is the kind of contract you should be more than willing to give control to the player on given how many years he left on the table (upward of three).
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