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    Ilya Kovalchuk Interested in Joining the Rangers?

    https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/ilya...gers/230563086

    As we all know, SNY Rangers Blog just sort of gathers murmurings from around the league and puts them all in one spot. Read the posted link at your leisure.

    Not a chance in hell it happens, but something to discuss in a boring post-post-season.

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    Why is there no chance in hell?

    All it would likely take is a late-round pick and a 1-year deal to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Why is there no chance in hell?

    All it would likely take is a late-round pick and a 1-year deal to get him.
    Highly doubt that. Kovy is probably still a top-6 forward. They're going to get a decent return, much more than a late-round pick if they even approve him coming back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cash or Czech? View Post
    Highly doubt that. Kovy is probably still a top-6 forward. They're going to get a decent return, much more than a late-round pick if they even approve him coming back.


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    For a 34-year old who hasn't played in the NHL since 2012 and isn't under contract? All you're trading for, in practicality, is negotiating rights.

    Also, why do people keep calling him Kovy? That is and always will be Kovalev.

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    I think the Devils will take a late pick from other teams around the league, but from us it'd take a bit more.

    If we can manage the cap space then maybe I'd be interested but I think it's a tough fit all things considered.
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    Sole reason I would even consider Kovalchuk is for his shot on the PP. He has no hesitation using it


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    This guy would be fine on a Grabner type deal and no more. He has proven to be an offensive force in this league already but there's no need to risk anything especially when this team's problem is defense, not offense, and even more especially when he hasn't played in the league for a few years.

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    wonder how a team with him radulov and buchie on a line would look

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    Huh? On the downside of a mish-mash career. Fugedaboudid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka Drunkenski View Post
    Sole reason I would even consider Kovalchuk is for his shot on the PP. He has no hesitation using it


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    Yea, and that's why I wouldn't flat-out say no to him. This team's PP becomes a lot more scary when it's Kovalchuk, and not Zib, shooting from the left circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    For a 34-year old who hasn't played in the NHL since 2012 and isn't under contract? All you're trading for, in practicality, is negotiating rights.

    Also, why do people keep calling him Kovy? That is and always will be Kovalev.
    He'll have already been signed by the time he's traded. Any team acquiring him knows that they're getting him. It's not like negotiating rights at all.

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    Him and Buchnevich on the same line would be exciting to watch, but I doubt that we could manage his salary as long as Rick Nash returns after postseason. And I still prefer Nr. 61 over Nr. 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew a Penalty View Post
    He'll have already been signed by the time he's traded. Any team acquiring him knows that they're getting him. It's not like negotiating rights at all.
    The Devils aren't going to sign him without having a trade agreed upon. Another team isn't going to make the trade without knowing what the contract is. It's a sign-and-trade, which is exactly like trading for negotiating rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    The Devils aren't going to sign him without having a trade agreed upon. Another team isn't going to make the trade without knowing what the contract is. It's a sign-and-trade, which is exactly like trading for negotiating rights.
    No, that's not what it is. The Devils are going to allow him to negotiate with other teams to see if they arrive at a contract. That can't happen until July 1st. If a team and Kovalchuk arrive at a contract then it's up to the team and the Devils to work out a deal. If not, nothing.

    It's not like negotiating rights at all. With negotiating rights, you're not guaranteed anything and still losing assets. You're betting. There's no betting here at all. In order for the sign and trade to happen all parties need to be in agreement. In negotiating rights, it's only the teams, not the player. They're not alike at all.

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    Most of the leading PP goal scorers weren't big shots. After Ovechkin, it goes Kucherov, Schenn, Simmonds, Crosby, Eaves, Hoffman, Benn and finally another big shot in Weber. We tried the big shot in Pirri, and it didn't pay out. There's better ways to spend assets in contracts and trades.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cash or Czech? View Post
    Most of the leading PP goal scorers weren't big shots. After Ovechkin, it goes Kucherov, Schenn, Simmonds, Crosby, Eaves, Hoffman, Benn and finally another big shot in Weber. We tried the big shot in Pirri, and it didn't pay out. There's better ways to spend assets in contracts and trades.


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    Kucherov and Hoffman are elite-level shooters. Crosby is Crosby. Schenn, Simmonds and Eaves do their work at the front of the net but have great shooters around them to draw attention.
    http://i.imgur.com/JtnGtn2.mp4
    Pirri worked just fine on the PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    Kucherov and Hoffman are elite-level shooters. Crosby is Crosby. Schenn, Simmonds and Eaves do their work at the front of the net but have great shooters around them to draw attention.
    http://i.imgur.com/JtnGtn2.mp4
    Pirri worked just fine on the PP.
    The difference is the rest of the players could play a regular shift. Pirri couldn't, which is why he didn't play for most of the season. The last thing we need is a specialist, which most people are making Kovalchuk out to be.


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    Are we seriously comparing Pirri and Kovalchuk?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cash or Czech? View Post
    The difference is the rest of the players could play a regular shift. Pirri couldn't, which is why he didn't play for most of the season. The last thing we need is a specialist, which most people are making Kovalchuk out to be.


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    Huh?

    Nobody's doing that. Just saying that the PP presence he adds makes him more valauble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cash or Czech? View Post
    Most of the leading PP goal scorers weren't big shots. After Ovechkin, it goes Kucherov, Schenn, Simmonds, Crosby, Eaves, Hoffman, Benn and finally another big shot in Weber. We tried the big shot in Pirri, and it didn't pay out. There's better ways to spend assets in contracts and trades.
    During his time in the NHL (2001-2002 season to the 2012-2013 season) Kovalchuck was second in PP goals with 138 (one goals out of first) and he was also second in PP points.

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