Page 1 of 21 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 405

Thread: 2017 Off-Season Thread: Fix the Blue Line or Bust

  1. #1
    #MakePetrGreatAgain BSBH Legend
    Phil in Absentia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    81,787
    Rep Power
    359

    2017 Off-Season Thread: Fix the Blue Line or Bust




    Please use this thread to discuss all feasible off-season related topics including
    (but not limited to) potential trades, free agency and more. This thread is intended to
    discuss the New York Rangers off-season, though other team information (that is
    relevant to the Rangers) like potential trade candidates can be posted here as well.

    This thread is not designed for trade proposals. Please do not post them here unless
    they are specific to an existing rumor or report.


    This thread will be updated regularly between now and July 1st, as well as into the
    off-season months in the event major names are still available on the board (so to speak).





    Team Summary via CapFriendly.com:


    FORWARDS (15 - $39,950,000) TERMS POS STATUS AGE 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23
    Nash, Rick "A" M-NTCNMC LW, RW NHL 32 $7,800,000 $7,800,000 UFA
    Stepan, Derek "A" C NHL 26 $6,500,000 $6,500,000 $6,500,000 $6,500,000 $6,500,000 UFA
    Kreider, Chris LW NHL 26 $4,625,000 $4,625,000 $4,625,000 $4,625,000 UFA
    Zuccarello, Mats RW, LW NHL 29 $4,500,000 $4,500,000 $4,500,000 UFA
    Miller, J.T. C, RW NHL 24 $2,750,000 $2,750,000 RFA
    Zibanejad, Mika C, RW NHL 24 $2,625,000 RFA
    Hayes, Kevin C NHL 25 $2,600,000 $2,600,000 RFA
    Grabner, Michael RW NHL 29 $1,650,000 $1,650,000 UFA
    Glass, Tanner LW NHL 33 $1,450,000 UFA
    Pirri, Brandon C, LW, RW NHL 26 $1,100,000 RFA
    Fast, Jesper RW, LW NHL 25 $950,000 RFA
    Buchnevich, Pavel ELC LW, RW NHL 22 $925,000 $925,000 $925,000 RFA
    Vesey, Jimmy ELC LW NHL 23 $925,000 $925,000 RFA
    Puempel, Matt LW NHL 24 $900,000 RFA
    Lindberg, Oscar C NHL 25 $650,000 RFA
    DEFENSE (9 - $25,337,500) TERMS POS STATUS AGE 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23
    Staal, Marc "A" NMC D NHL 30 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 $5,700,000 UFA
    Girardi, Dan "A" NMC D NHL 33 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 UFA
    McDonagh, Ryan "C" M-NTC D NHL 27 $4,700,000 $4,700,000 $4,700,000 UFA
    Klein, Kevin D NHL 32 $2,900,000 $2,900,000 UFA
    Smith, Brendan D NHL 28 $2,750,000 UFA
    Holden, Nick D NHL 29 $1,650,000 $1,650,000 UFA
    Skjei, Brady ELC D NHL 23 $925,000 $925,000 RFA
    Kampfer, Steven D NHL 28 $612,500 $650,000 $650,000 UFA
    Clendening, Adam D NHL 24 $600,000 RFA
    GOALTENDERS (3 - $10,125,000) TERMS POS STATUS AGE 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23
    Lundqvist, Henrik NMC G NHL 35 $8,500,000 $8,500,000 $8,500,000 $8,500,000 $8,500,000 UFA
    Raanta, Antti G NHL 27 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 UFA
    Hellberg, Magnus G NHL 26 $625,000 UFA
    BUYOUT HISTORY (1) 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23
    Richards, Brad $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0
    Statistics ROSTER SIZE 27 18 9 5 3 0 0
    STANDARD PLAYER CONTRACTS 46 38 22 9 3 0 0
    SALARY CAP $73,000,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000
    PROJECTED CAP HIT $71,752,556 $63,800,000 $41,600,000 $30,825,000 $20,700,000 $0 $0
    PROJECTED CAP SPACE $1,247,444 $9,200,000 $31,400,000 $42,175,000 $52,300,000 $73,000,000 $73,000,000
    CURRENT CAP SPACE $0 - - - - - -
    CURRENT LTIR RELIEF $0 - - - - - -
    ESTIMATED SALARY EXPENDITURE $85,305,556 $66,830,556 $40,430,556 $26,055,556 $15,755,556 $1,055,556 $1,055,556
    CARRYOVER BONUS OVERAGES $0 - - - - - -
    POTENTIAL PERFORMANCE BONUSES $2,850,000 $2,850,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0
    RETAINED SALARY REMAINING 3 3 3 3 3 3 3




    Dates to Remember:


    NHL Entry Draft — June 23rd, 24th
    Vegas Expansion Draft — June 17th (protected lists due), June 20th (Vegas selections made),
    June 21st (League announces roster)
    Free Agent Signing Period Begins — July 1st
    Buyout Window — TBD





    Highest Scoring Unrestricted Free Agents


    PLAYER TEAM EXPIRY AGE POS GP G A P ▾ +/- TOI W L SO GAA Sv% SALARY CAP HIT
    1. Kevin Shattenkirk WSH UFA 28 D 80 13 43 56 -7 19:51 - - - - - $5,200,000 $4,250,000
    2. T.J. Oshie WSH UFA 30 RW 68 33 23 56 28 17:51 - - - - - $4,500,000 $4,175,000
    3. Radim Vrbata ARZ UFA 35 RW 81 20 35 55 -18 16:53 - - - - - $1,000,000 $1,000,000
    4. Alexander Radulov MTL UFA 30 RW 76 18 36 54 10 18:17 - - - - - $5,750,000 $5,750,000
    5. Patrick Eaves ANA UFA 33 RW, LW 79 32 19 51 -2 15:42 - - - - - $1,000,000 $1,000,000
    6. Joe Thornton SJS UFA 37 C 79 7 43 50 7 18:03 - - - - - $6,750,000 $6,750,000
    7. Sam Gagner CBJ UFA 27 C, RW 81 18 32 50 10 13:42 - - - - - $650,000 $650,000
    8. Justin Williams WSH UFA 35 RW 80 24 24 48 14 15:28 - - - - - $3,250,000 $3,250,000
    9. Thomas Vanek FLA UFA 33 LW, RW 68 17 31 48 -5 14:37 - - - - - $2,600,000 $2,600,000
    10. Patrick Marleau SJS UFA 37 LW, C 82 27 19 46 4 17:09 - - - - - $6,500,000 $6,666,667
    11. Jaromir Jagr FLA UFA 45 RW 82 16 30 46 2 16:59 - - - - - $4,000,000 $4,000,000
    12. Mike Fisher NSH UFA 36 C 72 18 24 42 1 16:37 - - - - - $4,000,000 $4,400,000
    13. Martin Hanzal MIN UFA 30 C 71 20 19 39 -17 18:35 - - - - - $3,500,000 $3,100,000
    14. Kris Versteeg CGY UFA 30 LW, RW 69 15 22 37 -3 14:43 - - - - - $950,000 $950,000
    15. Nick Bonino PIT UFA 29 C 80 18 19 37 -5 16:39 - - - - - $2,100,000 $1,900,000
    16. Andrei Markov MTL UFA 38 D 62 6 30 36 18 21:50 - - - - - $4,250,000 $5,750,000
    17. Brian Gionta BUF UFA 38 RW 82 15 20 35 -11 16:36 - - - - - $3,250,000 $4,250,000
    18. Matt Cullen PIT UFA 40 C, LW 72 13 18 31 4 13:55 - - - - - $1,000,000 $1,000,000
    19. Derek Ryan CAR UFA 30 C 67 11 18 29 -8 14:53 - - - - - $600,000 $600,000
    20. Chris Kunitz PIT UFA 37 LW 71 9 20 29 0 15:30 - - - - - $3,550,000 $3,850,000



    Editor's Note: Here are the tables again for our mobile users



    Hidden Content

    "Everyone says you should be a good loser. If you’re a good loser, you’re a loser."
    - John Tortorella


    "I've always said, I'd rather tame a tiger than paint stripes on a kitty cat."
    - Dean Lombardi


    "If someone tells me that I've hurt their feelings, I say, “I'm still waiting to hear what your point is.”"
    - Christopher Hitchens

  2. #2
    Senior Member Junior Division
    ThirtyONE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    9,458
    Rep Power
    63
    Who can we get from the Washington yard sale?
    FIRE VIGNEAULT

  3. #3
    #MakePetrGreatAgain BSBH Legend
    Phil in Absentia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    81,787
    Rep Power
    359
    Shattenkirk. He's the only one they have any business going after.
    Hidden Content

    "Everyone says you should be a good loser. If you’re a good loser, you’re a loser."
    - John Tortorella


    "I've always said, I'd rather tame a tiger than paint stripes on a kitty cat."
    - Dean Lombardi


    "If someone tells me that I've hurt their feelings, I say, “I'm still waiting to hear what your point is.”"
    - Christopher Hitchens

  4. #4
    Keep your fkin head up BSBH Rookie
    Mikey37's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    28,931
    Rep Power
    267
    Oshie
    Hidden Content
    $1080 and counting

  5. #5
    Senior Member Junior Division
    ThirtyONE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    9,458
    Rep Power
    63
    That UFA class is a scrap heap if I've ever seen one. YIKES.
    FIRE VIGNEAULT

  6. #6
    The Dolphin Whisperer BSBH Rookie
    Morphinity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    28,318
    Rep Power
    351
    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the effort that went into making this thread? Holy shit.

  7. #7
    I only watch FOREIGN films Bantam Division Steven.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Nutley, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,013
    Rep Power
    21
    Re-sign Smith, go after Shatty, buyout one of G/Staal. I'll be happy.

    I would also shop Nash, Stepan, Hayes, Grabner, and Miller. Maybe Kreider.
    Hidden Content

    "TV is a nickname, nicknames are friends, and television is no friend of mine."

  8. #8
    #MakePetrGreatAgain BSBH Legend
    Phil in Absentia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    81,787
    Rep Power
    359
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey37 View Post
    Oshie
    He won't be worth the long-term contract. Great player, but his direct comparables—Loui Eriksson ($6Mx6), Kyle Okposo ($6Mx7), and Andrew Ladd ($5.5Mx7)—paint a scary picture for a guy who is already 30.
    Hidden Content

    "Everyone says you should be a good loser. If you’re a good loser, you’re a loser."
    - John Tortorella


    "I've always said, I'd rather tame a tiger than paint stripes on a kitty cat."
    - Dean Lombardi


    "If someone tells me that I've hurt their feelings, I say, “I'm still waiting to hear what your point is.”"
    - Christopher Hitchens

  9. #9
    List Maker BSBH Rookie
    josh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    21,256
    Rep Power
    172
    I'd love to see the team acquire a heart and sole player with leadership. Not sure the options, but I think the lockeroom needs a voice and someone that keeps people accountable (both team and opponents). Probably Iginla type player from 2 years ago.

  10. #10
    Formerly Richter Redux Midget Division
    Ranger Lothbrok's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    4,500
    Rep Power
    107
    Quote Originally Posted by Morphinity View Post
    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the effort that went into making this thread? Holy shit.
    Agreed. Nice work as always Phil.

    What was the topic of last year's off-season thread? I seem to remember it being something similar and their solution was Nick Holden. That's what's disconcerting to me.

  11. #11
    I only watch FOREIGN films Bantam Division Steven.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Nutley, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,013
    Rep Power
    21
    Some potential trade targets to consider:

    At D: Josh Manson, Brandon Montour, Sami Vatanen, Matt Dumba, Jacob Trouba, Colin Miller, Tyson Barrie, Chris Tanev

    At F: Alex Galchenyuk, Matt Duchene, Nathan MacKinnon, Charlie Coyle, Antoine Roussel, Michael Ferland, Ilya Kovalchuk (highly unlikely, obviously)
    Hidden Content

    "TV is a nickname, nicknames are friends, and television is no friend of mine."

  12. #12
    Resident Garbage Clown BSBH Prospect
    Dunny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    10,744
    Rep Power
    188
    Quote Originally Posted by Morphinity View Post
    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the effort that went into making this thread? Holy shit.
    No shit.

    Thanks to, I assume, Phil. Great spread. Depressing AF, but great none the less.

  13. #13
    Senior Member Junior Division
    ThirtyONE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    9,458
    Rep Power
    63
    Maybe we can get Ovi and add to the long list of underperformers.
    FIRE VIGNEAULT

  14. #14
    I only watch FOREIGN films Bantam Division Steven.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Nutley, New Jersey
    Posts
    2,013
    Rep Power
    21
    Some very interesting tidbits from Brooksie's latest:

    The first, second, third and fourth priority is to obtain a top-pair right defenseman who might actually enhance Ryan McDonagh’s game. All indications over the last two years are that the Rangers do not believe impending free agent Kevin Shattenkirk fits that description, certainly not at the expected market rate of $6.5 million per for six or seven years, so Gorton is going to have to acquire his target by trade. Winnipeg’s Jacob Trouba (23 years old, $2.812 million for next season) and Carolina’s Justin Faulk (25, $4.833 million per through 2019-20) are the guys to hone in on, but they would be available only at a premium cost. The Rangers probably have no choice but to meet it. Anaheim’s Sami Vatanen (26 next month, $4.875 million per through 2019-20), and Minnesota’s Jonas Brodin (24 in July, $4.167 million per through 2020-21) are other interesting top-pair options.
    It is important for the Rangers to keep impending unrestricted free agent Brendan Smith, who was impressive through most of the playoffs and is perfect for the second pair on the right across from Brady Skjei, the freshman who is probably the most untouchable asset on the roster. Figure four or five years at between $4 million-$4.5 million per for the 28-year-old Smith.
    The cost in dead cap space of buying out both Marc Staal and Dan Girardi is prohibitive, ranging from approximately $4.74 million next year to approximately $5.74 million the following season to a high point of approximately $6.74 million in 2019-20 before sliding down gradually for another five years.

    ...

    If it is an either/or proposition, the Rangers probably would buy out Staal, even though his comes at greater cost and over an extra two years.
    Derek Stepan, a very good player who had a very bad playoffs, does everything for the Rangers but he may have to go if he is part of the asking price for a top right defenseman.
    The first 40 minutes of Tuesday’s Game 6 explains why the Blueshirts might be amenable to trading Chris Kreider while the final 20 minutes explains why they can’t. The fluctuation in his game is remarkable. At some point, it will no longer be tolerable, but that time is not now … not unless, that is, he is the asking price for Trouba.

    J.T. Miller had an unfortunate slide after going through the first 50 games as the Rangers’ best forward. There is nothing but upside in Miller, who has as much heart as anyone in uniform, but again, management probably is going to trade someone it doesn’t want to in order to fix the D.
    http://nypost.com/2017/05/11/whats-n...ook-at-roster/
    Hidden Content

    "TV is a nickname, nicknames are friends, and television is no friend of mine."

  15. #15
    Senior Member Bantam Division Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,930
    Rep Power
    5
    Quote Originally Posted by Steven. View Post
    Some potential trade targets to consider:

    At D: Josh Manson, Brandon Montour, Sami Vatanen, Matt Dumba, Jacob Trouba, Colin Miller, Tyson Barrie, Chris Tanev

    At F: Alex Galchenyuk, Matt Duchene, Nathan MacKinnon, Charlie Coyle, Antoine Roussel, Michael Ferland, Ilya Kovalchuk (highly unlikely, obviously)
    Wonder what MIN will demand for Dumba. Can play PP and PK, right-handed, young. Shipping Hayes/Kreider/Stepan, hell even Zuc would be fine by me. He is also on a 2m contract next year, so we could afford to keep Staal/G as 6/7th D and buy them out much cheaper next year.

    Barrie is the other option I would look at. COL would definitely want some prospect/picks back. Dont know what we have to offer. They would ask for Skjei, but hell no. Hayes++ maybe?

    Upside by being eliminated in 2nd round is that our pick became better. Picking 21st this year. As long as this franchise is run the way it is with this "Lundqvist window" I would be fine trading the pick for a good young D in return (Dumba, Trouba).

  16. #16
    Senior Member Squirt Division pws85nyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    333
    Rep Power
    11
    The Kreider comment is spot on. Agree with Miller and Smith to, although I think the dollars are a little high on Smith personally.


    Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk

  17. #17
    Senior Member Junior Division
    Blue Heaven's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Queens
    Posts
    9,776
    Rep Power
    79
    Just going to throw this out there without really thinking about the cap whether it would work or not.
    As we know the window is closing for Lundqvist and the NYR. I think most of us agree that Stepan should be moved, if he can be moved for a prospect and pick(s) to improve the talent pool.
    Sign Joe Thornton for 1 year, and try and have one last hurrah with Rick Nash, Thornton can still dish the puck, probably help the PP. Problem with Thornton is that he's slow but that might not matter if AV is fired.
    Obviously try and get rid of Girardi and/or Staal.
    Sign Brendan Smith
    Somehow figure out a way to sign Shattenkirk.
    Another guy I would consider for a 1/2 year contract would be Justin Williams but I dont know where he would fit with Zuccarello, Nash, Fast, Grabner on RW.

  18. #18
    Very Large Member BSBH Prospect
    Vodka Drunkenski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    13,743
    Rep Power
    112
    Knowing the Rangers, I'm sure Kovalchuk will end up here somehow


    #MakeBSBHGreatAgain
    Hidden Content

    Let's Go Rangers!

  19. #19
    Moderator Junior Division
    Future's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    5,372
    Rep Power
    107
    Quote Originally Posted by Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc View Post
    Wonder what MIN will demand for Dumba. Can play PP and PK, right-handed, young. Shipping Hayes/Kreider/Stepan, hell even Zuc would be fine by me. He is also on a 2m contract next year, so we could afford to keep Staal/G as 6/7th D and buy them out much cheaper next year.
    He's in the same range as Faulk and Trouba. I said this way back when, but he is the guy I would have gone after at the deadline, if not Tanev.

  20. #20
    Formerly Dru23 BSBH Prospect
    NYR2711's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    West Babylon
    Posts
    13,157
    Rep Power
    75
    Re-sign Smith, go after Shattenkirk and make a play for either Oshie, Eaves or Fisher if they can come in on a decent deal.

Page 1 of 21 12311 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •