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    Mike Flynn Offers to Testify in Exchange for Immunity

    WASHINGTON—Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

    As an adviser to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and later one of Mr. Trump’s top aides in the White House, Mr. Flynn was privy to some of the most sensitive foreign-policy deliberations of the new administration and was directly involved in discussions about the possible lifting of sanctions on Russia imposed by the Obama administration.

    He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees through his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.
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    Rep. Swalwell 'Innocent people don't seek immunity'
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    My initial reaction to this was that we may have a smoking gun, either all the way to Trump or at least to those still in power. Why else would Flynn's attorney's seek a deal unless they knew he had something more valuable to offer either the FBI or the committees investigating than what ever transgressions he may, himself, be guilty of?

    I've had a night to think on it, though and there are a number of other plausible explanations. One, and maybe the most likely, is that Flynn's attorneys are just using this as an opening gambit in the negotiations process of getting his client to testify. What does that mean? Well, unless they are subpoenaed to testify, those coming before these committees are simply asked to testify and they are free to say no. To entice them, there is sometimes negotiations as to what topics will be covered, whether hearings will be opened or closed or whether immunity, either blanket (meaning across the board, anything that comes up during the hearing) or partial immunity where they are covered for some potential crimes but not others.

    So, for instance, Flynn could seek blanket immunity in which case he doesn't have to worry about anything, but settle for immunity from perjury in regards to saying he had no foreign monetary ties before becoming National Security Adviser, which may or may not have been criminal. He gets a bone from the House or Senate in return for testifying about other matters that might offer clarity but not implicate anyone higher up.

    Request for immunity might also be a political ploy to help his old boss. It certainly fills the news cycle. It has created speculation. And the news can only cover so much. What has fallen by the wayside in news coverage with all the lines on Russia is a deeper analysis of the legislation that is being worked on or passed as well as Executive Orders, legal cases over those orders, etc. In short, this could be more spin that weeks from now is a footnote as Flynn testifies without immunity and doesn't offer up much. Yet today, it's top of the fold news.

    Or maybe Flynn has dirt. Maybe Trump or his higher ups instructed Flynn to meet with the Russian ambassador during the election to assure Russia that under a President Trump, sanctions would go away, setting up a quid pro quo for the hacking, even if it wasn't explicit. Trump's people certainly would be aware of the lengths Russia was willing to go in order to influence politics in other countries.

    We're going to have to wait and see where this goes. But it is certainly great political theater. On that end, junkies like myself have really enjoyed the Trump campaign and Presidency thus far. It hasn't been this good since Slick Willy.

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    As with most things these days, I'll just wait and see until there's something more concrete and tangible. As Dave alluded to, there's no telling what this really means or implicates, so it's hard to glean what the possible outcomes are.

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    I have a hard time seeing any scenario where his testimony leads to some kind of impeachment.

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    Trump has a long history of shady dealings.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...andals/474726/
    Treatment of women
    Racial housing discrimination
    Mafia ties
    Trump University
    Tenant intimidation
    Four bankruptcies
    Undocumented workers
    Breaking casino rules
    Antitrust violations
    Refusing to pay workers and contractors

    Hire the best lawyers, threaten to tie up cases in the courts for years, and figure out settlements.

    As president, you get some shielding. We didn't hear too much about the Bushes relationship with the Saudis, or the Clintons relationship with various unsavory authoritarian regimes.

    Trumps ties with Russia are more damning than anything I've heard about the Bushes or the Clintons.

    Watergate was not only about the crime, but the coverup.

    Unless there is something truly criminal, the best thing to do is welcome a full investigation. The more lies that the Trump team gets caught in, the more this looks like Watergate, and the less this looks like what presidents usually do.

    The Republicans like the executive actions and the direction that the country is moving, so no way in hell they will allow impeachment proceedings... unless there is irrefutable evidence of criminal behavior by Trump, which I doubt exists. So this is really a spin and PR battle more than anything else, before the Republican agenda proceeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future View Post
    I have a hard time seeing any scenario where his testimony leads to some kind of impeachment.
    I agree that his testimony alone likely won't. All of this may just be the Democrats finally finding their balls when it comes to cut throat politics. Trump obviously has had business ties to Russia. He refuses to release his tax returns. Those two things alone gave the Democrats plenty to work with in keeping Russia in the spot light. Then all his campaign people meeting with Russian diplomats or business folks, or having past ties to Russia, gives them more ammo. Russia and Putin is an area that Dems can make GOPers squirm, because many are on record speaking out repeatedly against Russia/Putin.

    For all we know, this was Russia's game plan all along. Help get Trump elected not because they expected favor or because they colluded, but because they knew that the Russian boogeyman that's plagued US politics for over half a century along with Trump's ties would put our leadership into a distracted, infighting mess, one that Russia could easily exploit for their own gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    What I don't get about all this hoopla is that the Obama Administration was crystal clear that they were investigating foreign intervention into the US election so isn't that what this is? Or am I missing something? It seems like diversionary tactics.
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