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    Republican Presidential Debate

    anyone catch it last night? any thoughts?

    I liked trump but mostly for his "shock" value. If he wins the nomination from the republicans we'll see Hillary as our next president IMO. even if he doesn't win the nomination and runs as an independent, its bad news for the republicans either way.

    I liked Christie the most so far I think. kinda always liked his take no shit attitude

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    Trump started out well but kind of faded out. There is a large segment of Americans who enjoys his fight on the Washington establishment including those in the Republican party. And yes I agree, if he does get the nod then Hillary is the next president, but then ask yourself this. If he's already leading polls and gaining ground still then how does Hillary not win? Nobody else there last night stood out more than anyone else.

    If Christie wasn't soanti teacher and anti union I would like him, but I just can't bring myself to that, and to be he's also a lot of steam and no heat. I live in NJ, I pay taxes here, nothing has truly improved in this state, if not we're worse off than before he took office.

    And if Huckabee wasn't so religious right I would actually like the guy, he seems very genuine, at least the most genuine of all the candidates. But his stands on abortion and other social issues turns me off almost completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am Scags View Post
    Trump started out well but kind of faded out. There is a large segment of Americans who enjoys his fight on the Washington establishment including those in the Republican party. And yes I agree, if he does get the nod then Hillary is the next president, but then ask yourself this. If he's already leading polls and gaining ground still then how does Hillary not win? Nobody else there last night stood out more than anyone else.

    If Christie wasn't soanti teacher and anti union I would like him, but I just can't bring myself to that, and to be he's also a lot of steam and no heat. I live in NJ, I pay taxes here, nothing has truly improved in this state, if not we're worse off than before he took office.

    And if Huckabee wasn't so religious right I would actually like the guy, he seems very genuine, at least the most genuine of all the candidates. But his stands on abortion and other social issues turns me off almost completely
    I think once debates turn more serious and leading candidates will be established, trump's lead will go away. he has no substance so far, he bashes but does not propose much instead. to me he's just a sideshow for now, until real debates start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCCP View Post
    I think once debates turn more serious and leading candidates will be established, trump's lead will go away. he has no substance so far, he bashes but does not propose much instead. to me he's just a sideshow for now, until real debates start.
    Yea he's definitely a gimmick. But he's certainly struck a chord with large base of Americans who don't want a Washington insider president, his rhetoric definitely resonates with that crowd of people. I just don't see now though who breaks through if Trump falls off


    Let me just say this and I will continue to say this. if more Americans payed attention and gave half a shit to the people they elect for their city council, mayor, state congress and senate than the sideshow two party popularity contest that is President, we might be a much different and much better nation. We have no idea of the power we're entitled to and that those that matter most in our lives live, sleep, and work in the same neighborhoods, cities, and states that we live in

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    Trump is about as ego maniacal as they come but there's a lot of truth it what he says. Especially on the border..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Trump is about as ego maniacal as they come but there's a lot of truth it what he says. Especially on the border..
    About Mexicans being rapists? I seriously doubt that.
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    I watched it and as I expected, there weren't many subjects where any of the answers resonated with me. Trump is just there for himself, there were very little surprises from that weasel Walker, Bush was mediocre, and most others had their usual messages. Carson stood out negatively from a debating perspective as a terrible speaker and very insecure, with a ton of glances at his cards and notes, but I found Kasich a breath of fresh air. He was sensible, kind, made good points and positioned himself quite cleverly as a Midwest moderate with an open mind. Hell, for some of his answers I thought, "this guy wouldn't be all bad." Huckabee is a lunatic with rehearsed jokes and a friendly face. His comment that Obama vilifies people is beyond hypocrisy given the things he said about Obama "leading Israelis straight to the ovens." What a jackass he is.

    It was entertaining, but Megyn Kelly not following up and demanding answers when they dodged her toughest questions was weak. It was a surprisingly tough debate given it was Republicans on Fox, but they let Walker get away with refusing to say if he'd let a pregnant woman die instead of having an abortion. Which he absolutely would, by the way, and his "there is medicine for this" is a nonsensical cop-out. That sequence really pissed me off.
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    I think the comment that pissed me off the most was the one about the Navy and Air Force. Especially the Air Force. Yeah, the number of planes we have is a lot less than 1940 or 45 or whatever, but the nature of warfare has changed. Of course the Air Force got smaller, everyone's Air Force has. The job of 50 B-17s can now by done by 1 B2 and done better. Advancements in Radar, missile technology, stealth and pilot/plane survivability mean we don't need to mass produce planes to account for potential combat casualties. And yet, we still spend an enormous amount on our military. Our Airforce is the largest in the world, and the Navy is like a close 2nd or 3rd.

    Comments like that show how a candidate either A. Has a gross misunderstanding of current military tactics and warfare or B. Thinks that such an ill thought out statement can win over people because they think we're all idiots.
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    Yea that Carson guy came off as a terrible debater, he had absolutely nothing. Jed Bush was so mediocre, how anyone could even think of this guy as a candidate at this point (or at any point) is absolutely beyond me

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvbcaboose View Post
    I think the comment that pissed me off the most was the one about the Navy and Air Force. Especially the Air Force. Yeah, the number of planes we have is a lot less than 1940 or 45 or whatever, but the nature of warfare has changed. Of course the Air Force got smaller, everyone's Air Force has. The job of 50 B-17s can now by done by 1 B2 and done better. Advancements in Radar, missile technology, stealth and pilot/plane survivability mean we don't need to mass produce planes to account for potential combat casualties. And yet, we still spend an enormous amount on our military. Our Airforce is the largest in the world, and the Navy is like a close 2nd or 3rd.

    Comments like that show how a candidate either A. Has a gross misunderstanding of current military tactics and warfare or B. Thinks that such an ill thought out statement can win over people because they think we're all idiots.
    Yea you know every Air Force guy was thinking the same thing of what a crock of shit Huckabees B-52 line was. I was like, "sir have you ever heard of the B2 Stealth Bomber?" Yea the same B2 that flies out of Whiteman AFB the next state over from you in Missouri?? What a dumbass!!!

    I'm going with B. I'm sure he knows enough about the Military to be somewhat proficient, and knows even more what a bunch of idiots his followers are
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    I think it was pretty dumb how most of them just acted like Hillary was the DEM nominee. There's a good chance it will be her, but that shouldn't have been a focus.

    Trump is just going for shock value at this point and I'm surprised he is still hanging around.
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    It should scare us all that he's still around with as much support as he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It should scare us all that he's still around with as much support as he has.
    I'm not sure the term "scared" qualifies enough...
    You are strong with the English language, help with a word

    Scared x 5 = ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules View Post
    I watched it and as I expected, there weren't many subjects where any of the answers resonated with me. Trump is just there for himself, there were very little surprises from that weasel Walker, Bush was mediocre, and most others had their usual messages. Carson stood out negatively from a debating perspective as a terrible speaker and very insecure, with a ton of glances at his cards and notes, but I found Kasich a breath of fresh air. He was sensible, kind, made good points and positioned himself quite cleverly as a Midwest moderate with an open mind. Hell, for some of his answers I thought, "this guy wouldn't be all bad." Huckabee is a lunatic with rehearsed jokes and a friendly face. His comment that Obama vilifies people is beyond hypocrisy given the things he said about Obama "leading Israelis straight to the ovens." What a jackass he is.

    It was entertaining, but Megyn Kelly not following up and demanding answers when they dodged her toughest questions was weak. It was a surprisingly tough debate given it was Republicans on Fox, but they let Walker get away with refusing to say if he'd let a pregnant woman die instead of having an abortion. Which he absolutely would, by the way, and his "there is medicine for this" is a nonsensical cop-out. That sequence really pissed me off.
    kasich came across like the most sane and sensible of all of them which is why he would never win the nomination. he'll never appeal to the base if people on the opposite side of the political spectrum find him palatable.

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    scared of him being president? Not a chance, hes burned too many bridges in his own party to even come close to the nomination. Scared that he's hijacking the conversation for his own issues? Definitely a real concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It should scare us all that he's still around with as much support as he has.
    He has a ton of support now because of his "no nonsense, speaks his mind, tells it like it is" mentality. Seriously.

    He appeals to the racist, sexist, xenophobic, you name it people in America. He also gets far more news coverage and press than any primary candidate. There's a theory out there that it's just noise and history shows that popularity during the primary is extremely volatile. Weren't there like 5 front-runners in 2012 - like Herman Cain was the most popular?

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    Look at the other candidates. It's pathetic. Paul and Christie are the only half sane individuals there but Trump is probably 3rd least absolutely batshit crazy person.

    Huckabee and Carter are both legitimately insane. Completely delusional. They think the earth is 6000 years old. Rubio thinks life begins at orgasm. It's a sad group.

    Dems are different but equally pathetic.


    Our election goes this fall and it's the same horseshit. Pick between the shape shifting reptile, socialist idealist who really wants to give all my money to poor people and immigrants, or a drama teacher who is only here because his dad was Trudeau.

    What's the point?

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    Doesn't matter who becomes president. This country has turned to shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR View Post
    Doesn't matter who becomes president. This country has turned to shit
    Finally we agree

    They're all crooks at the end of the day
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    definition of a politician is a crook. they're all the same all over the world

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