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    Slava Fetisov's KHL Plan Would Block Buchnevich From Joining NHL

    In May, Fetisov said he wished for players under the age of 28 to be kept in Russia to play hockey, which would essentially keep them in the country until they’re in their prime.

    In a translation by the Associated Press, Fetisov’s reasoning was to keep, “our most talented guys, the ones who the people come to see,” in Russia.

    Just this off-season, Russian players such as Artemy Panarin, Viktor Tikhonov, Alexander Burmistrov and Evgeni Medvedev have all left the KHL in favor of the NHL. Of those four, only Medvedev, would have been allowed to transfer over to the big league under Fetisov’s proposed rule.

    “Panarin is 23 years old, and he gets the opportunity to go to the NHL,” Fetisov told RSport.ru at the time of Panarin’s transfer. “Because we (have) not spelled out rules!”
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    It should be noted that he has tried to push in the past, unsuccessfully, but with Buchnevich having re-signed in the KHL for this coming season, assuming this change did go through, he'd be barred from joining the NHL until he is 28-years old — eight years from now.

    Could put a pretty significant dent in the Rangers' plans considering how high they are on him within the organization and how much his skill may factor in to their plans going forward.
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    I don't think anything like this will ever pass, honestly.

    If it did, they'd see more defections and Russians playing Junior hockey, no?

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    It'll never go through. They're not going to be able to keep players in, especially good ones. If the KHL were a quality league, maybe, but it's not. Players are going to want to play in the biggest, most reputable league that has teams with money, good care and fans. You're only going to find that on some teams in the KHL and that's just going to get worse with their over expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I don't think anything like this will ever pass, honestly.

    If it did, they'd see more defections and Russians playing Junior hockey, no?
    If those Russians are interested in the NHL, and leaving home, then yes. They're a tricky bunch. Look at Kovalchuk.
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    What would stop them from leaving, though? To my knowledge there is no exchange agreement for players between the NHL and KHL. If that were the case, I feel like many players would void their contracts and come straight to North America. I guess rights to play for the national team, etc, but it's just an overzealous attempt to keep players in a failing league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cash or Czech? View Post
    What would stop them from leaving, though? To my knowledge there is no exchange agreement for players between the NHL and KHL. If that were the case, I feel like many players would void their contracts and come straight to North America. I guess rights to play for the national team, etc, but it's just an overzealous attempt to keep players in a failing league.
    There isn't, but they've been working on one for some time. I think this would only add problems.

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    I find it odd that Fetisov is pushing this, wasn't he one of the first Russian players to defect to play in the NHL because it was so much better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    I find it odd that Fetisov is pushing this, wasn't he one of the first Russian players to defect to play in the NHL because it was so much better?
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    This would essentially mean that Russians no longer get drafted, right? I don't think it makes much sense and seems pretty desperate, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    This would essentially mean that Russians no longer get drafted, right? I don't think it makes much sense and seems pretty desperate, IMO.
    Good point. They probably wouldn't waste their time entering the draft, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyONE View Post
    This would essentially mean that Russians no longer get drafted, right? I don't think it makes much sense and seems pretty desperate, IMO.
    Yea, which is exactly why I can't imagine the KHLPA (lol idk if they even have one) allowing that to happen. I'd imagine that most guys just head to juniors rather than develop for a couple years in the KHL.

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    Really surprised with Fertisov. He was THE pioneer in having a Russian decide when its time to come to the NHL. Now he wants to aid in restrictions. Just seems strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keirik View Post
    Really surprised with Fertisov. He was THE pioneer in having a Russian decide when its time to come to the NHL. Now he wants to aid in restrictions. Just seems strange.
    Different times. Different circumstances. He's trying to grow a brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey37 View Post
    Different times. Different circumstances. He's trying to grow a brand.
    Don't forget, different pay check. Fuck him, now Im glad no one went to see his dumb movie. He is a greedy piece of shit. He finally gets paid by the Russians, and he quickly changes his attitude on the younger players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey37 View Post
    Different times. Different circumstances. He's trying to grow a brand.
    By forcing players to remain even if its against their will until a certain age. Just repackaging the same thing and trying to sell it as different.

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    Isn't always about money? I can't hate on someone trying to get paid even if it doesn't walk the same path as I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Head View Post
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    it would suck for us but he's probably getting paid big bucks to run a business. if the league is losing money because stars are leaving, in russia they can stop people from leaving. its russia, the word freedom there is just a word

    and I truly believe that he may actually succeed in implementing this. all depends on how strong is the players' union there

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    Don't forget, different pay check. Fuck him, now Im glad no one went to see his dumb movie. He is a greedy piece of shit. He finally gets paid by the Russians, and he quickly changes his attitude on the younger players.
    You mean Red Army? He looked petty and terrible in it. That's why it was so great. He was so salty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYR2711 View Post
    I find it odd that Fetisov is pushing this, wasn't he one of the first Russian players to defect to play in the NHL because it was so much better?
    Yep I find it hard to swallow. I know he waited until Soviets caved, and it took a long while, but it's my understanding he had applied to transfer as a younger player and was denied … now he will perpetuate that denial of younger player's ambitions. Hope this is not just a case of "follow the money," but that's my first instinct, cynical as it may be.

    28 is too late for these guys anyway. Many of your best years and money earning potential are in the books. With a weak ruble and a piss-poor economy, denying these players passage is tantamount to rekindling the old communistic ways. Would be sad if it happens, but how about Russia stops shooting itself in the foot with foreign policies that hurt its economy, and by extension, the KHL? They had success there for a while keeping some good players who preferred the larger ice game, and even attracting players like Jagr from our cap-hamstrung NHL. The powers that be did this to themselves; time to undo it.

    I understand the sentiment of trying to retain talent in a country craving to reap its own glory, but these players become testaments to Russian hockey in other ways. Metaphorical shackles ain't the answer, IMO.

    http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...urtain-nhl-khl

    He had played 13 seasons for the Red Army club, CSKA Moscow, forced into what was essentially military service (with sticks and pucks instead of guns) at age 16.

    He didn't defect from the USSR -- instead, with patience and help from Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello, Fetisov waited and pressured Soviet leaders until they caved.

    It was the fall of hockey's Iron Curtain, and it paved the way for hundreds of Russian players to leave and play -- professionally and for millions of dollars, something the communist system never allowed -- hockey anywhere in the world. In a lot of ways, every Russian NHL player that's ever played -- from Igor Larionov to Sergei Fedorov and beyond -- owes something to Fetisov, who was the first to have enough courage to repeatedly demand his release from the Red Army.

    If you've seen the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary Of Miracles And Men, or if you were a diehard hockey fan in the late 1980s and early 1990s, you know Fetisov's struggle well -- how coach Viktor Tikhonov was a tyrant, how he made many of his great Soviet players yearn for a the freedom to love hockey again, and how the NHL opened up those opportunities for Fetisov and so many of his countrymen.
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    Fetisov soon expressed a desire to play in the NHL and submitted a request to Soviet officials. However, Soviet players defecting to North America was strictly discouraged at the time and his request was met with great resistance. Fetisov has recalled the Soviet Minister of Defence giving him an ultimatum at the time to either apologize or be sent to play in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.[1] Nevertheless, at the age of 31, helped by the Soviets' newfound glasnost policy, Fetisov led a group of eight Soviet players, including Helmut Balderis, Vladimir Krutov, Igor Larionov, Sergei Makarov, Sergei Mylnikov, Sergei Priakin and Sergei Starikov, into the NHL. Soviet hockey officials agreed to allow Soviet players to play in the NHL as long as they continued to compete internationally for the Soviet Union.[1]

    Fetisov had been drafted by the Montreal Canadiens in the 1978 NHL Entry Draft eleven years prior. However, unable to play in North America at the time, he was re-entered into the 1983 NHL Entry Draft, where he was selected by the New Jersey Devils.
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