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Phil in Absentia
09-18-2018, 03:58 PM
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Mobile link: https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/1042138342983458817

Kevin
09-18-2018, 04:21 PM
Glad to see Zibs in the lineup. I'd imagine it wasn't concussion related since he's in.

Giacomin
09-18-2018, 09:53 PM
DeAngelo and Buch are the only repeats. These two are moving from the coach's doghouse to coach's pet. Pet project, I mean.

Where's Shattenkirk?

Phil in Absentia
09-18-2018, 10:02 PM
DeAngelo, I'd bet, is getting every opportunity to make this team. The fact he's in back-to-back and not Pionk, for example, is probably a precursor. Pionk is still waivers-exempt. DeAngelo isn't.

Pete
09-19-2018, 06:38 AM
ADA should make this team. He has all the tools. What he needs to be is coached, and he has the temperament Quinn wants.

If he isn't on the roster, at least as an extra, I'd question if there's something behind the scenes.

Gravesy
09-19-2018, 07:20 AM
Where's Shattenkirk?

And Zuccarello?

Pete
09-19-2018, 08:07 AM
There's really no reason to play them, yet. There's a lot of cuts to be made. Everyone playing either has something to prove, plus you're required to dress some regulars, even in a PS game.

Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc
09-19-2018, 08:28 AM
There's really no reason to play them, yet. There's a lot of cuts to be made. Everyone playing either has something to prove, plus you're required to dress some regulars, even in a PS game.

I didn't know that. Is it a rule that says that?

Looking forward to this game, interesting center depth here with Zib, Chytil and Howden.

Pete
09-19-2018, 08:39 AM
I didn't know that. Is it a rule that says that?

Looking forward to this game, interesting center depth here with Zib, Chytil and Howden.

Yes, because teams force you to buy the PS games if you're a STH. So they are required to put some talent out there.

Gravesy
09-19-2018, 08:53 AM
Ah, gotcha. Didn't know that tbh.

Giacomin
09-19-2018, 09:07 AM
DeAngelo, I'd bet, is getting every opportunity to make this team. The fact he's in back-to-back and not Pionk, for example, is probably a precursor. Pionk is still waivers-exempt. DeAngelo isn't.

He keeps playing the way he did and he is going to do more than make this team. I think the coach has a lot of projects, but I bet the coach and GM agreed it is time for Buch and DeAngelo to play a large role this year. Be interesting to see if he gets paired with Skjei tonight to test a new top pairing. Or maybe Quinn pairs him with Hajek.

Zuc sitting early makes more sense then anyone else. Shatty though, missed more than half the year and was still rehabbing during the draft. Wonder how his progress is going?

Phil in Absentia
09-19-2018, 09:09 AM
That rule is also why some teams add a bunch of PTOs who they have no intention of signing. The Rangers aren't one of them, but Pete has it right.


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ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 10:46 AM
Quinn was not happy with the lack of response to the headshot last game. Says he’s addressed it. Seems like old habits of being complete pushovers die hard.

Giacomin
09-19-2018, 11:11 AM
Quinn was not happy with the lack of response to the headshot last game. Says he’s addressed it. Seems like old habits of being complete pushovers die hard.

Interesting.

So here we are with a coach that does not want the team to take headshots, w/o responding. Watch things change around here. And I'm not one for chippy/dirty play, but I was pounded on here for saying AV instilled a 'turn-the-other-cheek' for the PP preference, instead of any retaliation. Players were benched for taking a retaliation penalty. We don't have to initiate assholetry, but we can't let teams try to run our skilled players out of the building, as a key strategy.

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 11:33 AM
Interesting.

So here we are with a coach that does not want the team to take headshots, w/o responding. Watch things change around here. And I'm not one for chippy/dirty play, but I was pounded on here for saying AV instilled a 'turn-the-other-cheek' for the PP preference, instead of any retaliation. Players were benched for taking a retaliation penalty. We don't have to initiate assholetry, but we can't let teams try to run our skilled players out of the building, as a key strategy.

Of course and I don't think you were alone in those sentiments over the last few seasons. To be blunt, we were a team of pussies. The game may have changed some but it's still hockey. Seems like he's also been preaching the message of "go through rather than around" which would be a welcomed sight for me as well.

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 11:41 AM
I still can't believe no one fucked up Cody Eakin when he ran Lundqvist.

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 12:49 PM
I still can't believe no one fucked up Cody Eakin when he ran Lundqvist.

Larry Brooks mentioned the double head shot to Vesey and Staal in a 1:52 span that went unpunished. I had honestly forgotten about that. So many moments of head scratching for me. Even the Brendan Smith fight in LA -- which was seemingly the last fight the Rangers had before OGara dropped the gloves two nights ago -- was seen as a negative by AV.

I'm just so glad that that kind of shit is over with now. Question is, are we now trying to paint tiger stripes on a house cat? Are any of these guys even capable of standing up for teammates? Because it's not just going to come down to McQuaid. McCloud was in the game two nights ago and still did nothing. Someone on the ice needs to respond when it happens, no matter who's on the ice.

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 12:50 PM
Any vids of the headshots?
I didn't get a chance to see the game.

josh
09-19-2018, 12:58 PM
Quinn said after the game that he didnt have issue with the Rangers not retaliating, said it happened fast, caught off guard, not everyone saw it to see what was happening.
This seems like Larry twisting words, as usual.

Also, the hit was awkward. It was head on head.

Finally, Boo was skating with his head down. Last thing any teammate or coach needs to do is rescue a guy crossing the blueline staring at his skates.

josh
09-19-2018, 01:12 PM
Any vids of the headshots?
I didn't get a chance to see the game.
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https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1041858999757545473

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 01:23 PM
Quinn said after the game that he didnt have issue with the Rangers not retaliating, said it happened fast, caught off guard, not everyone saw it to see what was happening.
This seems like Larry twisting words, as usual.

Also, the hit was awkward. It was head on head.

Finally, Boo was skating with his head down. Last thing any teammate or coach needs to do is rescue a guy crossing the blueline staring at his skates.


“It happened so fast, I don’t know if guys saw it, and we responded by winning the game, obviously, but there are other ways you can respond,” the coach said when asked about the absence of retaliation. “It’s been discussed [with the team].”

https://nypost.com/2018/09/18/david-quinn-irked-by-rangers-passive-response-to-head-shot/

Doesn't seem like there's any twisting going on to me.

4EverRangerFrank
09-19-2018, 01:38 PM
Interesting.

We don't have to initiate assholetry...

:rofl:

"Go through rather than around" is a FANTASTIC statement from Quinn. Physicality 101 is good for hockey and your Win column.

Giacomin
09-19-2018, 01:53 PM
As long as we mix it up. If we have an Elias Pettersson, we don't need to go thru anybody.


https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1042252472058826752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1042252472058826752&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheprovince.com%2Fsports%2Fh ockey%2Fnhl%2Fvancouver-canucks%2Fso-we-think-this-pettersson-kid-might-be-good

Did anyone see Pettersson's first game (highlights) against Edm. Holy shit! Here is a page with 4 brief videos (https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/so-we-think-this-pettersson-kid-might-be-good)from the game.

fletch
09-19-2018, 03:07 PM
Trivia question: In Stanley Cup playoff history, who are the top 3 non-American goal scorers? If it was easy, it wouldn't be trivia.

Answer at https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-players-all-time-playoff-goals-leaders.html
no 3, no 11, and no 14 overall scorers

4EverRangerFrank
09-19-2018, 03:09 PM
^That was some move!

josh
09-19-2018, 03:33 PM
Trivia question: In Stanley Cup playoff history, who are the top 3 non-American goal scorers? If it was easy, it wouldn't be trivia.

Answer at https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-players-all-time-playoff-goals-leaders.html
no 3, no 11, and no 14 overall scorers

guessing Kurri, Jagr and... Malkin?

Ozzy
09-19-2018, 03:46 PM
:rofl:

"Go through rather than around" is a FANTASTIC statement from Quinn. Physicality 101 is good for hockey and your Win column.

You're winning my soul, fine sir!!! :rofl:

fletch
09-19-2018, 03:55 PM
guessing Kurri, Jagr and... Malkin?

2 out of 3 is pretty good. There is a definitely Ranger flavor to the 3 correct answers.

josh
09-19-2018, 03:57 PM
Dont think I would have gotten the third. I had 5+ other names I would have guessed before him.

The Dude
09-19-2018, 05:14 PM
Can't wait to see captain Brendan Smith in action. Set the tone man.

josh
09-19-2018, 05:25 PM
Can't wait to see captain Brendan Smith in action. Set the tone man.

Smith sets the same tone as Hollweg.

Wait until the team is up by 2, then go get your ass kicked. Then take a dumb penalty when you get out of the box.


fuck, i have a feeling "He Hustles!" is going to make a comeback this season.

rangers02
09-19-2018, 06:15 PM
Smith sets the same tone as Hollweg.

Wait until the team is up by 2, then go get your ass kicked. Then take a dumb penalty when you get out of the box.


fuck, I have a feeling "He Hustles!" is going to make a comeback this season.

Then he will probably do something stupid late in the season when he "hustles." I fear he could have the same poor start as last season, but that all depends on his performances in games such as this and training camp. If not, his carrer as a blueshirt could be done

CBrowningPI
09-19-2018, 06:22 PM
I'm looking foward to see if Beleskey can play some good hockey and Smith as well. The only retaliation was when J. Fast mumbled something in Swedish to Gryba. Lol.

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Pete
09-19-2018, 06:35 PM
Smith sets the same tone as Hollweg.

Wait until the team is up by 2, then go get your ass kicked. Then take a dumb penalty when you get out of the box.


fuck, i have a feeling "He Hustles!" is going to make a comeback this season.

Yea, for Lias.

josh
09-19-2018, 06:48 PM
Lias is going to throw you into the crowd

Pete
09-19-2018, 06:55 PM
Lias is going to throw you into the crowd

He should. I'm the epitome of "2nd place."

josh
09-19-2018, 07:00 PM
Toss your ass like you’re a player of the game puck

josh
09-19-2018, 07:05 PM
For tonight, almost everyone is a “player to watch”, in some capacity

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 07:12 PM
Wow.

Pete
09-19-2018, 07:17 PM
Toss your ass like you’re a player of the game puck

That I am, sir.

josh
09-19-2018, 07:20 PM
Smith looks a step slow, out of place, and his defenders are easily getting space. But it’s the first period, lol. He’s been calm with the puck on his stick, and that goes a long way.

josh
09-19-2018, 07:21 PM
Henrik in mid season slump form

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 07:23 PM
I’m glad hockey is back but way too much analysis going on for preseason games

Pete
09-19-2018, 07:26 PM
I’m glad hockey is back but way too much analysis going on for preseason gamesThey are a bad team with a new coach and a new system. I doubt they win more than 5 games out of the first 20.

josh
09-19-2018, 07:26 PM
I’m glad hockey is back but way too much analysis going on for preseason games

Hey. It’s our preseason, too!

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 07:31 PM
FUCK YES. Jesus christ, I can't believe I'm shouting at the TV for preseason.

josh
09-19-2018, 07:31 PM
Nice shift. Guys skating hard. And goal!

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 07:33 PM
Three things.

I hope Smitty is back. Looked pretty good there.

I will gladly take Beleskey over McCloud all day long. Please make that happen.

Joey Keane is a 1st round talent. Hands down, will be an impact player for us soon.

Pete
09-19-2018, 07:39 PM
Hey. It’s our preseason, too!You're in post season form

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 07:40 PM
Smith looks a step slow, out of place, and his defenders are easily getting space. But it’s the first period, lol. He’s been calm with the puck on his stick, and that goes a long way.

But...a great assist. Great read. Great pass.

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 07:41 PM
Henrik in mid season slump form

You weren't kidding

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 07:43 PM
PPG!
Hold on guys...my fav song is on.

AliveIn94
09-19-2018, 07:46 PM
Henrik in mid season slump formUsing the Kevin Hayes approach to preseason?

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rangers02
09-19-2018, 07:46 PM
No Kidding! That goal was ticketed! PPG! :thumbs:

rangers02
09-19-2018, 07:49 PM
Using the Kevin Hayes approach to preseason?

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Hank has been a little spotty tonight. This might cause concern

josh
09-19-2018, 07:51 PM
The team picked up their game after the first period on Monday. Might do it again tonight.

This the the Flyers 4th preseason game. Wow

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 07:58 PM
I am absolutely rooting for Brendan Smith to make a comeback.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 08:04 PM
Maybe it's just me, but Skjei looks terrible.

Pete
09-19-2018, 08:05 PM
Chytil not looking good this game. But whatever.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 08:06 PM
If I didn't know anything about any of these guys and you asked me who the Rangers worst Dman was playing today I would say "76".

rangers02
09-19-2018, 08:10 PM
Skjei has looked terrible so far. He needs to prove himself as well as Brendan Smith.

rangers02
09-19-2018, 08:11 PM
Why does Skjei have more TOI in terms of our d-men tonight?
:palm: :wtf:

josh
09-19-2018, 08:12 PM
Preseason for refs, too

CBrowningPI
09-19-2018, 08:12 PM
I'd have to say "30".

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josh
09-19-2018, 08:15 PM
I'd have to say "30".

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Yup

rangers02
09-19-2018, 08:16 PM
Very sloppy penalties being taken tonight. We need to clean up the penalties which is what PHI has taken advantage of

rangers02
09-19-2018, 08:17 PM
Yup

Yes

leetchy2
09-19-2018, 08:18 PM
I expect to hear a cheer when Tokarski comes in to replace Hank who is showing his usual pre-season rust.

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 08:19 PM
Quite a few players look like they're picking up where they left off...

rangers02
09-19-2018, 08:21 PM
Such as?

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 08:22 PM
Such as?

Hank Vesey and Skjei for starters.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 08:23 PM
Namestikov sucks to name one.

Pete
09-19-2018, 08:28 PM
Loved the summer write up I read here on Names being awesome at zone entries. What an obscure thing to be good at.

I just call it the "When you're on the Stammer/Kooch line, no one gives a shit if you have the puck" effect.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 08:35 PM
Chytil just keeps feeding these two clowns and they can't do a thing with it.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 08:37 PM
2nd preseason game on a rebuild, the sky is falling. What’s the score?

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 08:42 PM
Chytil and DeAngelo are dominating the puck and looking very good. Everyone else is bleh. Keane's awareness and positioning are better than most of our NHL defenders, if not all.

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 08:47 PM
Chytil and DeAngelo are dominating the puck and looking very good. Everyone else is bleh. Keane's awareness and positioning are better than most of our NHL defenders, if not all.

What number is he?

Buch has looked confident in back to back games now which is a good sign. He might benefit most from a coaching change.

Bugg
09-19-2018, 08:53 PM
Henrik in mid season slump form

Spare us the happy horseshit about The New Mask, stop the puck.At this point, rather he had a blank white mask and plain brown pads and gloves and stop the goddamn puck.

Namestikov talks like he grew up in Toronto. Did he come over at the age of 4?

Bugg
09-19-2018, 08:55 PM
Skjei has looked terrible so far. He needs to prove himself as well as Brendan Smith.

To think they were the best pair on a playoff team that should have gone to the ECF 2 seasons ago. Can they get back to that?

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:02 PM
What number is he?

Buch has looked confident in back to back games now which is a good sign. He might benefit most from a coaching change.

82, he's on the 1st pair with Skjei.

torontonyr
09-19-2018, 09:04 PM
Namestnikov looks awful

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 09:09 PM
Keane is a re-entry, let’s slow down with the expectations

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:13 PM
Keane is a re-entry, let’s slow down with the expectations

I know he was. But his analytics were top 5 for all defenseman in this draft and his skating is exceptional. I think he was voted best defenseman in his league too. There was a lot said about him after the pick was made and he has apparently been extremely impressive to management all camp, hence being on the top pair tonight.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 09:16 PM
Yea, it was also said that he went too early after the pick. You’re talking like it’s a sure thing, I’m just saying pump the brakes

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:21 PM
Nothing is a sure thing. He's just looks very good and all reports from the coaches have said the same.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:23 PM
And yeah I remember the OHL coaches poll voted him the league's best defenseman.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:23 PM
Smith just made the team.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 09:24 PM
Coaches will always pump tires this early on. When he does it consistently against real NHL talent, then we can talk about him being an “impact player”

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 09:26 PM
Smith just made the team.

Loved his game today. Super happy to watch him face wash some fuck.

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 09:35 PM
Hajek is awesome. I have no idea how they're going to string this back end together.

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:39 PM
Henrik just seems permanently cranky and annoyed.

phillyb™
09-19-2018, 09:39 PM
John Gilmour aka Steve Smith

TwoMinutesForNothing
09-19-2018, 09:40 PM
Letteiri is also pretty bad. All giveaways and blind passes without thinking.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-19-2018, 09:40 PM
Hajek is awesome. I have no idea how they're going to string this back end together.

Stud

ThirtyONE
09-19-2018, 09:53 PM
Maybe not shocking, but through two games I find myself being frustrated with the same three players as I did last year: Hayes, Vesey, and Skjei. The latter two being downright poor tonight.

Buch, TonyD stood out again. Hajek looked legit. Chytil was on the puck all night. Zib was solid. I'm liking most everything I've seen so far from the younger players.

fletch
09-19-2018, 11:05 PM
Henrik just seems permanently cranky and annoyed.

i expect a lot of cranky nights this season for lundqvist. hopefully the defensemen play improves, and lundqvist plays at an elite level. hopefully we’ve got a blueprint and are building for a better future

4EverRangerFrank
09-19-2018, 11:22 PM
Henrik in mid season slump form

Not jumping off the ledge but he did not look too sharp. I didn’t see confidence.

4EverRangerFrank
09-19-2018, 11:27 PM
I am absolutely rooting for Brendan Smith to make a comeback.

Me too. I really expected to see more though. Glad he finally stepped up to protect our guys. He’s wasn’t terrible by any stretch but...

CBrowningPI
09-19-2018, 11:48 PM
Can't wait for the post interview when Hank says "We" have to be better.

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thes5
09-20-2018, 09:15 AM
Anyone else want to pump the brakes on ADA?
Kid can skate but makes some precarious decisions. Reminds me a little of a young PK without the shot.

So Nashty
09-20-2018, 09:34 AM
Can't wait for the post interview when Hank says "We" have to be better.

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He looked awful last night but it’s pre season so who cares


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Giacomin
09-20-2018, 09:41 AM
Maybe not shocking, but through two games I find myself being frustrated with the same three players as I did last year: Hayes, Vesey, and Skjei. The latter two being downright poor tonight.

Buch, TonyD stood out again. Hajek looked legit. Chytil was on the puck all night. Zib was solid. I'm liking most everything I've seen so far from the younger players.

We are watching the exact same thing, agree on all accounts. Not going to sweat that game from Skjei though.

josh
09-20-2018, 09:55 AM
At VD's request:

GOALTENDERS
Lundqvist - terrible, then was worse when the game started
Tokarski - I guess OK

SKATERS
Holland - shrugs. Reminds me of a 39 year old guy on a PTO, and youre like "Yeah.. just doesnt have it anymore". He could Stoll for a bit, but why?
Spooner - still not showing enough outside of a few offensive zone chances... which he wont be getting during the season
Vesey - noticed once or twice, when he was missing nets or making mistakes
Fontaine - solid, not seeing any mistakes from him
Beleskey - looks to be skating better, nice goal. Needs to be more physical and crash the net
Smith - good with the puck, bad without it. Still slow
Hajek - one of the better defenders. Looks confident, made some plays, still learning
Howden - quiet game.
Gilmour - worthless
Chytil - poor defensively. Picked up his offense as the game progressed
Skjei - worst non Lundqvist on the ice. Looks like a dad trying to let his son win.
DeAngelo - Continuing to impress. Would still like to see him take more chances and more control, offensively. Could really break out if he's successful in doing so. But coming around defensively.
Gropp - didnt notice
Keane - solid performance
Buchnevich - typical Buch. Showed up when he wanted - but is looking more impressive when he decides to do so
Namestnikov - bad game. OK defensively, but seemed to play "hard" too hard
Zibanejad - didnt notice
Lettieri - mistakes. At least he kept a few shots down.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-20-2018, 10:05 AM
We want the Cup

Giacomin
09-20-2018, 02:38 PM
At VD's request:

GOALTENDERS
Lundqvist - terrible, then was worse when the game started
Tokarski - I guess OK

SKATERS
Holland - shrugs. Reminds me of a 39 year old guy on a PTO, and youre like "Yeah.. just doesnt have it anymore". He could Stoll for a bit, but why?
Spooner - still not showing enough outside of a few offensive zone chances... which he wont be getting during the season
Vesey - noticed once or twice, when he was missing nets or making mistakes
Fontaine - solid, not seeing any mistakes from him
Beleskey - looks to be skating better, nice goal. Needs to be more physical and crash the net
Smith - good with the puck, bad without it. Still slow
Hajek - one of the better defenders. Looks confident, made some plays, still learning
Howden - quiet game.
Gilmour - worthless
Chytil - poor defensively. Picked up his offense as the game progressed
Skjei - worst non Lundqvist on the ice. Looks like a dad trying to let his son win.
DeAngelo - Continuing to impress. Would still like to see him take more chances and more control, offensively. Could really break out if he's successful in doing so. But coming around defensively.
Gropp - didnt notice
Keane - solid performance
Buchnevich - typical Buch. Showed up when he wanted - but is looking more impressive when he decides to do so
Namestnikov - bad game. OK defensively, but seemed to play "hard" too hard
Zibanejad - didnt notice
Lettieri - mistakes. At least he kept a few shots down.

Only glaring differences between our observations was that Smith was not even close to slow. He is a very good skater... when in shape and 21 pounds lighter. He was swift out there. Zibs looked good.

BTW, I noticed Chytil's D being sloppy. Maybe he should get the Nylander/Larkin treatment and play the wing, strictly to lessen the rookie's D responsibilities. We are overloaded at C, but that is not the primary reason. If the team wants him to just work at C, I get that too.

josh
09-20-2018, 02:43 PM
Smith was a step behind all night.
When his man had the puck (or about to receive), they created separation with one stride. He was chasing guys all over the defensive zone.

fletch
09-20-2018, 04:08 PM
NYR 66/1 to win the Cup, odds same as Arizona, Carolina, and the Islanders
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nhl/odds/futures/

Building for a better future, because they aren't expected to do much this season.

But no games start counting until Oct 3rd, and the Rangers start with the same record as everybody else.

Giacomin
09-20-2018, 04:36 PM
Smith was a step behind all night.
When his man had the puck (or about to receive), they created separation with one stride. He was chasing guys all over the defensive zone.

Damn-it, just deleted the game. Now I'll never know. How is it that we saw everything else the same? Could be you're tough on Smith? You have been in the past.

Anyone else think Smith looked slow?

josh
09-20-2018, 04:54 PM
It's just something I notice.

Although, I admit, I was keeping an eye on him, I don't watch players. I watch the play. I'm also a sucker for speed and positioning. When watching the team/play as a whole, when a guy is out of position, or a step slow, it stands out.
I'm hoping some is contributed to "trying to do too much", and he's a little more calm, defensively, next game.



I'm not tough on Smith, I'm honest about him. I didn't like him in Detroit, didnt like the trade, didnt like the re-signing, and didnt like his play last season. I've also been one of the posters hoping he gets back to his game, as I hate rebuilds and old Smith could be a great benefit for us. Good all around game, can be physical, can skate (could?), etc etc. With so many soft, weak defenders on the right side, we need guys like Smith and Staal to stabilize the defense.

josh
09-20-2018, 04:57 PM
Note - NHL.com is posting "condensed" games on youtube the following day. They've been posting 5-minute and 9-minute versions.

jsrangers
09-20-2018, 05:12 PM
Anyone else want to pump the brakes on ADA?
Kid can skate but makes some precarious decisions. Reminds me a little of a young PK without the shot.Yep, way too premature imo to form an opinion on what his role and more importantly contribution may or may not be over the course of a season. Hoping for the best.

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Pete
09-20-2018, 05:45 PM
Hajek is awesome. I have no idea how they're going to string this back end together.

Liked his game last night.

The Dude
09-20-2018, 06:12 PM
Smith sets the same tone as Hollweg.

Wait until the team is up by 2, then go get your ass kicked. Then take a dumb penalty when you get out of the box.


fuck, i have a feeling "He Hustles!" is going to make a comeback this season.

Not even close.. But yeah the "at least he hustles" is going to be a huge saying this season.

The Dude
09-20-2018, 06:43 PM
Maybe not shocking, but through two games I find myself being frustrated with the same three players as I did last year: Hayes, Vesey, and Skjei. The latter two being downright poor tonight.

Buch, TonyD stood out again. Hajek looked legit. Chytil was on the puck all night. Zib was solid. I'm liking most everything I've seen so far from the younger players.

I watched sparingly, but that pretty much where I'm at.

Hajek was very noticeable.

Smith was alright.. As someone pointed out he carried the puck comfortably. Was hoping for a bit more aggression.

Zib can be such an electric player. Love anticipating him getting the puck on a one time or any shot.

Seems like Buch was taking the puck deep by himself. Kinda different look than I'm used to. I like it.

I really like Spooner. Not sure why he hasn't done more in this league while being on such a talented team. I like his vision. He seems to create something out of nothing by seeing a guy cross ice through traffic. This guy is going to be a solid guy for this team.

Chytil really looks good. Just so much skill. Seems able to play a variety of styles. Can dangle, or crash the net, or just rip a shot...

Howden didn't amaze but I felt he did some nifty things with the puck upon entry. Need to see more of him.

Namestnikov was on and off. Engaged after he got hit, but kinda need more spark/jump in his game.

I'd say the fourth line openings are wide open. Mcleod and Belesky are pretty sub par and that's being nice.

Vesey was kinda half assing it for a guy who should be fighting for a spot. He's gotta get dirty and fight for loose pucks.

Hayes looked like a oaf in game 1.

Skjei... Meh. He had some decent spots where he weaved through traffic with the puck. He could definitely up his game.

The back up goalie situation is interesting. Tokarski looked like the best goalie to play in the pre season. Not so sure Georgiev has any inside track over the other two.

The Dude
09-20-2018, 06:46 PM
Anyone else want to pump the brakes on ADA?
Kid can skate but makes some precarious decisions. Reminds me a little of a young PK without the shot.

Agree. I don't see PK. I see 40 year old Dan Boyle, but with 20 something year old upside. ( I really didn't mind Boyle at all.).

jsrangers
09-20-2018, 08:49 PM
Maybe not shocking, but through two games I find myself being frustrated with the same three players as I did last year: Hayes, Vesey, and Skjei. The latter two being downright poor tonight.


Same here so you're not alone. I hope Skjei didn't peak two years ago and now he's locked in on a long term deal. Not saying his contract wasn't worth the risk just hoping he steps up. Can't stand Vesey and hoping they move Hayes at the dead line.

Gravesy
09-21-2018, 01:13 AM
Hajek is awesome. I have no idea how they're going to string this back end together.

Hajek has done really well so far, but I don’t expect him to cause them trouble in terms of picking the team.
He’ll start in Hartford in all likelihood, and that’s ok for him.