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CreaseCrusader91
09-24-2014, 10:49 AM
:tweet:@AGrossRecord:
Derek Stepan hard to the ice during conditioning test, helped off clutching left knee/leg. Audibly and visibly in pain.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 10:52 AM
Derek clearly doesn't like training camp. He's had two days of camp in the past two years.

In all seriousness, this could be bad. Hayes and Miller might both make the team making our #1C... Derrick Brassard...


:doh:

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 10:55 AM
We have no idea what this actually means yet. All we know is he was held off the ice a few days prior to this with a foot contusion (from blocking a shot), which X-Rays came back negative for (a good thing).

Just gotta hope it's something minor.

Captain Clutch
09-24-2014, 10:55 AM
Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 2m

Stepan helped off ice after going down, clutching left leg/knee, during #NYR conditioning test. No contact, simply fell to ice...

Weird stuff. Maybe it was already hurt? Or just cramped up badly?

NYRangers92
09-24-2014, 10:57 AM
*sighs heavily in public*

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 11:05 AM
Hopefully it isn't a torn ACL or something...

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 11:15 AM
I know there is a "one too many donuts" joke in here somewhere. I just can't seem to find it.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 11:27 AM
I know there is a "one too many donuts" joke in here somewhere. I just can't seem to find it.

Look at the hole at the center. ;)

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 11:32 AM
So that leaves us with: Lombardi, Lindberg, D.Moore, Brassard, and JT Miller....

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 11:34 AM
So that leaves us with: Lombardi, Lindberg, D.Moore, Brassard, and JT Miller....

Hayes as well.

Mike
09-24-2014, 11:40 AM
I know there is a "one too many donuts" joke in here somewhere. I just can't seem to find it.
Maybe he had a jelly doughnut stashed in his gea, it fell on the ice, then he skated over it causing the fall.

Pete
09-24-2014, 11:43 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Brassard isn't that much of a downgrade from Stepan?

We lose a PK guy and a right shot, but Brassard is a far more creative player and IMO better on the PP.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 11:44 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Brassard isn't that much of a downgrade from Stepan?

We lose a PK guy and a right shot, but Brassard is a far more creative player and IMO better on the PP.

Of course he's not much of a downgrade, but it hurts our depth. Stepan-Brassard-Miller-Moore is palatable. Brassard-Miller-Hayes/Lombardi-Moore is far less so.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 11:47 AM
Ryan Bourque, Chris Mueller, Andrew Yogan and Chris McCarthy are listed as centers as well. There are probably a couple others, too.

Future
09-24-2014, 11:47 AM
Of course he's not much of a downgrade, but it hurts our depth. Stepan-Brassard-Miller-Moore is palatable. Brassard-Miller-Hayes/Lombardi-Moore is far less so.
Honestly, I think they almost have to keep Brass with Zucc, even if that means doing something like making Miller the "#1 center." Maybe you just put Kreider with those two and make that your number one. A straight up replacement of Stepan with Brassard would be a mistake I think.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 11:52 AM
Just because they had apparent chemistry on a line last season doesn't mean that the combination of Brassard-Zuccarello is unbreakable. Pouliot did a lot to make that line combination work by creating space with his size.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 11:52 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Brassard isn't that much of a downgrade from Stepan?

We lose a PK guy and a right shot, but Brassard is a far more creative player and IMO better on the PP.

Brassard would have to increase his ES production some to pace Stepan. Creativity is great, but pucks in the back of the net are most important. As far as better on the PP, last season Brassard had 19 PPP, Stepan had 18. Brass had a few more goals, Stepan a few more assists. As Morph noted, though, it's not so much production drop off as it is depth drop off. Not to mention losing a strong PK center as well.

So if Stepan is a lower tier 1st line center in the league, I'd say replacing him with Brassard who would be considered an even lower tiered first line center isn't good. Our saving grace at the center position, at least we hope, is to have a 2A, 2B, 2C and 3B type rotation, rather than a typical 1-2-3-4. Lose Stepan and we're looking at 2B - 2C - 2C -3B type depth in a best case scenario.

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 11:54 AM
Our initial reaction is to freak out, totally understandable. Even if he is gone for a few weeks because of injury I still think we can be competative. Mueller, Miller and Lindberg I think could fit in really well. Hayes and Lombardi are question marks still in my opinion...

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 11:54 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Brassard isn't that much of a downgrade from Stepan?

We lose a PK guy and a right shot, but Brassard is a far more creative player and IMO better on the PP.

Not at all, but you now lose Brassard on the second line and are forced to move everyone else up — none of whom are going to last long there (successfully).

I don't think the issue is nearly as dire in swapping Stepan for Brassard as it is with swapping everyone else for everyone else behind him. You ready for Dom Moore, second line center again?

Pete
09-24-2014, 11:55 AM
Brassard would have to increase his ES production some to pace Stepan. Creativity is great, but pucks in the back of the net are most important. As far as better on the PP, last season Brassard had 19 PPP, Stepan had 18. Brass had a few more goals, Stepan a few more assists. As Morph noted, though, it's not so much production drop off as it is depth drop off. Not to mention losing a strong PK center as well.

So if Stepan is a lower tier 1st line center in the league, I'd say replacing him with Brassard who would be considered an even lower tiered first line center isn't good. Our saving grace at the center position, at least we hope, is to have a 2A, 2B, 2C and 3B type rotation, rather than a typical 1-2-3-4. Lose Stepan and we're looking at 2B - 2C - 2C -3B type depth in a best case scenario.I guess what I'm saying is that I see Stepan and Brassard on the same tier. I agree that it hurts our depth, though.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 11:56 AM
Just because they had apparent chemistry on a line last season doesn't mean that the combination of Brassard-Zuccarello is unbreakable. Pouliot did a lot to make that line combination work by creating space with his size.

This. That line worked because of all 3 parts. And given your point totals, especially at even strength (MZA 41, Brass 27, Pouliot 25), that line wasn't strong enough to be a good first line option. I think their strength was in the "who do you check" department. They were probably against lesser defensive pairs than Kreider - Stepan - Nash.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 11:58 AM
I guess what I'm saying is that I see Stepan and Brassard on the same tier. I agree that it hurts our depth, though.

Yeah, they're pretty close. Separated by 9 points at ES last season, with Stepan getting almost a full minute more of ES ice time per game on average. Probably comes down to a handful of bounces.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 12:03 PM
Our initial reaction is to freak out, totally understandable. Even if he is gone for a few weeks because of injury I still think we can be competative. Mueller, Miller and Lindberg I think could fit in really well. Hayes and Lombardi are question marks still in my opinion...

I think they're all question marks outside of Miller. We've seen one game out of Hayes (unimpressive), one game out of Mueller (unimpressive), one game out of Lombardi (very unimpressive), and none out of Lindberg.

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 12:09 PM
Maybe I'm over reading statistics but Artem Anisimov and Oscar Lindberg have similar career numbers for their amateur and rookie AHL seasons. I wonder if Lindberg can develop into an Anisimov like centerman. Perhaps I'm over analyzing.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 12:12 PM
Maybe I'm over reading statistics but Artem Anisimov and Oscar Lindberg have similar career numbers for their amateur and rookie AHL seasons. I wonder if Lindberg can develop into an Anisimov like centerman.

I think that's how he projects if he develops towards the top end of his ability. The issue would be that if we're a Stanley Cup contender, is an Anisimov type in a rookie season good enough to be our 2/3 center (3 assuming Stepan's injury isn't too long).

Pete
09-24-2014, 12:23 PM
Maybe I'm over reading statistics but Artem Anisimov and Oscar Lindberg have similar career numbers for their amateur and rookie AHL seasons. I wonder if Lindberg can develop into an Anisimov like centerman. Perhaps I'm over analyzing.


I think that's how he projects if he develops towards the top end of his ability. The issue would be that if we're a Stanley Cup contender, is an Anisimov type in a rookie season good enough to be our 2/3 center (3 assuming Stepan's injury isn't too long).

AA and Lindberg has similar rookie AHL production, but AA had 81 points in 82 games as a sophomore. This is Lindberg's sophomore year upcoming so it remains to be seen if he explodes in a similar fashion.

Pete
09-24-2014, 12:31 PM
:tweet:Andrew Gross:Fractured fibula for Derek Stepan. No timetable yet on how long he'll be out. At doctor now. Rangers say update later today.

--

AKA - FUCKED.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-24-2014, 12:32 PM
Done

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 12:33 PM
Fuck everything.

He fractured his fibula just skating? Or did he slide into the boards or something?

JOHN
09-24-2014, 12:33 PM
Holy fuck! A fractured fibula from just condition drills? That's hard to swallow.

Captain Clutch
09-24-2014, 12:33 PM
It was probably from the blocked shot

Vodka Drunkenski
09-24-2014, 12:34 PM
Had to be pre existing

Drew a Penalty
09-24-2014, 12:34 PM
AA and Lindberg has similar rookie AHL production, but AA had 81 points in 82 games as a sophomore. This is Lindberg's sophomore year upcoming so it remains to be seen if he explodes in a similar fashion.

That was also playing with Parenteau. I would think it's possible for Lindberg. I think Anisimov is better offensively, but I think if Lindberg were to play with someone like Chris Bourque he could put up some points. I don't think he can do a ppg though.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 12:35 PM
Had to be pre existing


It was probably from the blocked shot

If that's the case, then our medical department effed up big time. I doubt that's the case though.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 12:37 PM
OK, so I retract what I said earlier. That's fucked. Just gotta hope like hell it's hairline, or a far lesser degree fracture.

This site says in sports, depending on degree of course, the player can return as soon as six weeks:

http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/13082350/fibula-fracture-broken-fibula-physioadvisor.htm


Prognosis of a fibula fracture

Patients with a fractured fibula usually make a full recovery with appropriate management (whether surgical or conservative). Return to activity or sport can usually take place in weeks to months and should be guided by the treating physiotherapist and specialist. In patients with severe injuries involving damage to other bones, soft tissue, nerves or blood vessels, recovery time may be significantly prolonged. In patients with only very minor fractures that are un-displaced (such as an avulsion fracture) return to sport can sometimes occur in as little as 6 weeks as guided by the treating physiotherapist.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-24-2014, 12:37 PM
Welcome Joe Thornton

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 12:38 PM
Welcome Joe Thornton

Fat chance. Rangers don't have the assets to make a deal of that magnitude, with or without Stepan.

Vodka Drunkenski
09-24-2014, 12:40 PM
OK, so I retract what I said earlier. That's fucked. Just gotta hope like hell it's hairline, or a far lesser degree fracture. This site says in sports, depending on degree of course, the player can return as soon as six weeks: http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/13082350/fibula-fracture-broken-fibula-physioadvisor.htm

I had a hairline in mine, couldn't skate for almost 4 weeks. Basically couldn't do shit but just stay off of it

Drew a Penalty
09-24-2014, 12:40 PM
Really got a hope now that Hayes or Lindberg can make the team unless Lombardi can really do well. Whoever it ends up being, the bottom nine will definitely suffer.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 12:49 PM
Training Camp just got a ton more interesting. The realistic shots at the #3 center spot were:

Miller
Hayes
Lindberg
Lombardi

Now at least two of those guys are likely to start the year as Rangers. For versatility sake, maybe 3 of those guys make it and one plays wing.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 12:52 PM
Training Camp just got a ton more interesting. The realistic shots at the #3 center spot were:

Miller
Hayes
Lindberg
Lombardi

Now at least two of those guys are likely to start the year as Rangers. For versatility sake, maybe 3 of those guys make it and one plays wing.

No doubt, this opens a whole new avenue of opportunities. Like you said, you can basically pencil in at least two of that group, and depending on exactly who makes what position where, it could be a door-opener for wing positions as well.

Miller is probably making it by default, and may just be asked to step up and play second line center to start the season at this rate. I mean, what alternative do they really have, other than Dominic Moore?

Lindberg has gotta be smiling big right now.

momentum
09-24-2014, 12:53 PM
Am I the only one not so bothered by this? It's not like Stepan is THAT fantastic, This is the ONE bonus by having a lower tier top center...you don't hurt AS much when he goes out injured lol.
I'm actually looking forward to see what Miller, Hayes Lindberg etc can do with some more time. Personally I'd try one line out of Hayes centering Nash and Malone...that'd be a fun line to watch, size and skill baby.

MZA/Brassard/Kreider
Hagelin/Miller/MSL
Malone/Hayes/Nash

Looks good to me, maybe this team will be more FUN with Stepan off of it....just maybe...

So Nashty
09-24-2014, 12:55 PM
Could end up being a blessing in disguise as it allows a younger guy to get more experience and a Longer look.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 12:55 PM
Am I the only one not so bothered by this? It's not like Stepan is THAT fantastic, This is the ONE bonus by having a lower tier top center...you don't hurt AS much when he goes out injured lol.
I'm actually looking forward to see what Miller, Hayes Lindberg etc can do with some more time. Personally I'd try one line out of Hayes centering Nash and Malone...that'd be a fun line to watch, size and skill baby.

MZA/Brassard/Kreider
Hagelin/Miller/MSL
Malone/Hayes/Nash

Looks good to me, maybe this team will be more FUN with Stepan off of it....just maybe...

That looks about right to me. I think if he shows OK then you have to go with Lombardi in your bottom 3 as well. Gives you another center, plus a PKer to boot.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 12:56 PM
Am I the only one not so bothered by this? It's not like Stepan is THAT fantastic, This is the ONE bonus by having a lower tier top center...you don't hurt AS much when he goes out injured lol.
I'm actually looking forward to see what Miller, Hayes Lindberg etc can do with some more time. Personally I'd try one line out of Hayes centering Nash and Malone...that'd be a fun line to watch, size and skill baby.

MZA/Brassard/Kreider
Hagelin/Miller/MSL
Malone/Hayes/Nash

Looks good to me, maybe this team will be more FUN with Stepan off of it....just maybe...

Again, it's a depth issue.

I also don't see how losing Stepan makes the team more "fun". Stepan is a good player.

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 12:56 PM
I wonder if his foot contuson was really his fibula being fractured. A bad fracture can swell the foot, which is why they may have mis prediagnosed his injury.

Slobberknocker
09-24-2014, 01:01 PM
imagine if this was a wally pipp thing. steps down with an injury, hayes steps in as the 1c slot for the next 12 years.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:01 PM
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/derek_stepan_helped_off_the_ice/


UPDATE: The Rangers announced at 12:30 that Stepan suffered a broken left fibula and is currently being examined by doctors. There is no immediate timetable for how long he’ll be out but the team said it would have an update later today. It is believed this injury is related to an initial injury suffered blocking a shot during an informal skate on Sept. 9. Today’s break is in the same spot as where the puck hit his leg blocking that shot on Sept. 9.

Though there’s no timetable, it seems obviously logical Stepan will not be available for the Oct. 9 season opener at St. Louis. An estimate is Stepan will miss about two months.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:01 PM
:tweet: @drosennhl
Chris Kelly & Tom Wilson also had fractured fibulas. Kelly missed 7 wks last season. Wilson had surgery, recently cleared to skate.

MacTruck
09-24-2014, 01:03 PM
Thinking we now see:

Kreider - Miller - MSL
Nash - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Hayes/Lindberg - Stempniak
Glass - Moore - Malone/Lombardi
Malone/Lombardi

Parsley
09-24-2014, 01:04 PM
Should have won it all last year Rangers. :rolleyes:

No way will the road to the Cup be as smooth as it was last year. That stings.

EdMc28
09-24-2014, 01:05 PM
Dorsett broke his Fibula last year and was out 4-6 weeks.

NYR2711
09-24-2014, 01:06 PM
Am I the only one not so bothered by this? It's not like Stepan is THAT fantastic, This is the ONE bonus by having a lower tier top center...you don't hurt AS much when he goes out injured lol.
I'm actually looking forward to see what Miller, Hayes Lindberg etc can do with some more time. Personally I'd try one line out of Hayes centering Nash and Malone...that'd be a fun line to watch, size and skill baby.

MZA/Brassard/Kreider
Hagelin/Miller/MSL
Malone/Hayes/Nash

Looks good to me, maybe this team will be more FUN with Stepan off of it....just maybe...

The problem is that we are losing a 50-60 point player. That's a huge issue when you don't have someone to replace those points. How fun will it be if he is lost for a majority of the season and we miss the playoffs. It's not like we are losing a 4th liner here. What center do we have that can replicate his point totals?

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:07 PM
Maybe we should try to trade for Jordan Staal ;)

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:09 PM
The problem is that we are losing a 50-60 point player. That's a huge issue when you don't have someone to replace those points. How fun will it be if he is lost for a majority of the season and we miss the playoffs. It's not like we are losing a 4th liner here. What center do we have that can replicate his point totals?

Well, if this is a typical injury of this nature, he'll be back around November 12th (7 weeks) or 19th (8 weeks). That'll be 15-18 games.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 01:12 PM
Thinking we now see:

Kreider - Miller - MSL
Nash - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Hayes/Lindberg - Stempniak
Glass - Moore - Malone/Lombardi
Malone/Lombardi

Not a chance in hell Miller vaults from potential third-line center to stop-gap first-line center.

I think what momentum posted earlier is probably a lot more realistic:

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Hagelin / Miller / MSL
Malone / Hayes (or Lindberg) / Nash
Glass / Moore / Stempniak

Basically everyone slides up at center to fill the void above them for the 10-20 games Stepan will miss.

NYR2711
09-24-2014, 01:12 PM
Well, if this is a typical injury of this nature, he'll be back around November 12th (7 weeks) or 19th (8 weeks). That'll be 15-18 games.

The key being if this is a typical injury. If it's from the original blocked shot, we really need to hope no more damage was done when it wasn't treated correctly the first time. If he needs surgery, we are truly screwed.

Thump23
09-24-2014, 01:14 PM
Am I the only one not so bothered by this? It's not like Stepan is THAT fantastic, This is the ONE bonus by having a lower tier top center...you don't hurt AS much when he goes out injured lol.
I'm actually looking forward to see what Miller, Hayes Lindberg etc can do with some more time. Personally I'd try one line out of Hayes centering Nash and Malone...that'd be a fun line to watch, size and skill baby.

MZA/Brassard/Kreider
Hagelin/Miller/MSL
Malone/Hayes/Nash

Looks good to me, maybe this team will be more FUN with Stepan off of it....just maybe...

You're asking two players with very little NHL experience (one guy with zero) to play heavy minutes. This is not ideal.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:15 PM
Should have won it all last year Rangers. :rolleyes:

No way will the road to the Cup be as smooth as it was last year. That stings.

You consider last year smooth? We were one of the worst teams in the league last year for about the first two months.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:16 PM
Not a chance in hell Miller vaults from potential third-line center to stop-gap first-line center.

I think what momentum posted earlier is probably a lot more realistic:

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Hagelin / Miller / MSL
Malone / Hayes (or Lindberg) / Nash
Glass / Moore / Stempniak

Basically everyone slides up at center to fill the void above them for the 10-20 games Stepan will miss.

I think I like the idea of Malone with Nash. Malone going to the net and taking bodies there will open up the higher slot for Nash to dangle through, while creating some traffic as well.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:17 PM
I think I like the idea of Malone with Nash. Malone going to the net and taking bodies there will open up the higher slot for Nash to dangle through, while creating some traffic as well.

Personally, I would try Malone with Zuccarello and Brassard. He can play the Pouliot role on that line.

Parsley
09-24-2014, 01:20 PM
You consider last year smooth? We were one of the worst teams in the league last year for about the first two months.

I'm talking injuries and weak playoff opponents in the EAST.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 01:20 PM
:tweet: @AGrossRecord: AV says in his experience, injury like Derek Stepan suffered today is usually a 4-6 week absence. Team will have more later today.

:tweet: @AGrossRecord: AV says moving Dominic Moore up to fill a top two center spot is definitely under consideration. "We've got a lot to sort out," AV said.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 01:21 PM
Personally, I would try Malone with Zuccarello and Brassard. He can play the Pouliot role on that line.

Same. I was just re-posting what momentum had listed, with a small tweak (moving Kreider to his proper wing).

Thump23
09-24-2014, 01:23 PM
The problem with this is, instead of using camp for guys to get acclimated with each other, see what works and what doesn't, you're using time to find stop gap solutions. Putting a guy in a spot he shouldn't be in. Not a great way to start the year.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:26 PM
The problem with this is, instead of using camp for guys to get acclimated with each other, see what works and what doesn't, you're using time to find stop gap solutions. Putting a guy in a spot he shouldn't be in. Not a great way to start the year.

If it had to happen, I'd rather it happen now. He's going to miss some time, but two and a half weeks aren't regular season time. Now we find a stop-gap and let that stop-gap hopefully build chemistry and find a combination that works.

phillyb™
09-24-2014, 01:27 PM
wow...
i do kind of like phil's and momentum's lineup.
my initial thought reading through this thread is where does dom moore fit in. idk if i'd put him at 2c.
slot him up to 3c and let one of the ahler's center the fourth line.

SyKeS
09-24-2014, 01:27 PM
Leaving Dom Moore on the fourth line with Stepan out is idiotic. I'd imagine seeing him on the top two lines. If not, I'd be really surprised.

Thump23
09-24-2014, 01:28 PM
If it had to happen, I'd rather it happen now. He's going to miss some time, but two and a half weeks aren't regular season time. Now we find a stop-gap and let that stop-gap hopefully build chemistry and find a combination that works.

Sure, better now than next March. Last year's camp was a disaster and the team paid for it at the beginning of the year. I was just hoping for a calm, uneventful camp. Let two kids crack the lineup and let everyone else get ready for the season. Never easy with this franchise.

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:29 PM
Not a chance in hell Miller vaults from potential third-line center to stop-gap first-line center.

I think what momentum posted earlier is probably a lot more realistic:

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Hagelin / Miller / MSL
Malone / Hayes (or Lindberg) / Nash
Glass / Moore / Stempniak

Basically everyone slides up at center to fill the void above them for the 10-20 games Stepan will miss.

I think the idea of Nash on the "third" line is really unrealistic at this point. Due to age and increased ineffectiveness, MSL is more likely to be the 3rd RW on the depth chart at ES than Nash, or Nash moves left.

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Nash / Miller / MSL
Hagelin / Lombardi / Malone or Stempniak
Glass / Moore / Stempniak or Malone

OR

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Malone / Miller / Nash
Hagelin / Lombardi / MSL
Glass / Moore / Stempniak

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 01:29 PM
Leaving Dom Moore on the fourth line with Stepan out is idiotic. I'd imagine seeing him on the top two lines. If not, I'd be really surprised.

I wouldn't call it idiotic, but he probably stands a better chance of moving up in the line-up than Miller, Hayes or any of the battling group do of jumping over him in the depth chart twice. I'd agree there.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:29 PM
Leaving Dom Moore on the fourth line with Stepan out is idiotic. I'd imagine seeing him on the top two lines. If not, I'd be really surprised.

Why is it idiotic? His offensive skill is limited, at best. We saw a preview of Dom Moore in the top-6 last year and it wasn't pretty.

I'd rather give the top-6 minutes to a guy like Miller who has a little more potential to produce some offense.

Slobberknocker
09-24-2014, 01:33 PM
The problem with this is, instead of using camp for guys to get acclimated with each other, see what works and what doesn't, you're using time to find stop gap solutions. Putting a guy in a spot he shouldn't be in. Not a great way to start the year.

this is called opportunity. someone can take the bull by the horns and step up here. hell there split squad now anyway.

rather he go down now than in april.

anyone else see this as an opportunity for Hayes to step up here?

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 01:35 PM
anyone else see this as an opportunity for Hayes to step up here?

Absolutely. He, Miller, Lindberg and even Lombardi all now have an increased chance to prove their worth.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:36 PM
this is called opportunity. someone can take the bull by the horns and step up here. hell there split squad now anyway.

rather he go down now than in april.

anyone else see this as an opportunity for Hayes to step up here?

Pretty much everyone does.

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:37 PM
Pretty much everyone does.

I don't. I see him ticketed to the minors to begin the year, I see this as Lombardi's shot to make the team because he's got experience and versatility.

momentum
09-24-2014, 01:38 PM
I think the idea of Nash on the "third" line is really unrealistic at this point. Due to age and increased ineffectiveness, MSL is more likely to be the 3rd RW on the depth chart at ES than Nash, or Nash moves left.

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Nash / Miller / MSL
Hagelin / Hayes (or Lindberg) / Malone or Stempniak
Glass / Moore / Stempniak or Malone

OR

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Malone / Miller / Nash
Hagelin / Hayes (or Lindberg) / MSL — MSL and Hags should be used to playing with slow guys
Glass / Moore / Stempniak

That second lineup looks good, but likely Hayes (unfortunately) gets to start in Hartford and Moore moves up:

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Nash / Moore / MSL
Hagelin / Miller / Malone
Glass / Lindberg or Lombardi / Stempniak[/QUOTE]

Personally though I wish they would try Malone with Nash...i think they would open up the ice for each other and feed of it. focus on either one of these players and the other will do some damage.

Slobberknocker
09-24-2014, 01:40 PM
I don't. I see him ticketed to the minors to begin the year, I see this as Lombardi's shot to make the team because he's got experience and versatility.

you may well be right but at 6.5 225 you will get some benefit of the doubt.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:40 PM
I don't. I see him ticketed to the minors to begin the year, I see this as Lombardi's shot to make the team because he's got experience and versatility.

He's on the list now for sure, I think, whereas I would have agreed with you before this injury took place.

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:40 PM
That second lineup looks good, but likely Hayes (unfortunately) gets to start in Hartford and Moore moves up:

Kreider / Brassard / Zuccarello
Nash / Moore / MSL
Hagelin / Miller / Malone
Glass / Lindberg or Lombardi / Stempniak[/QUOTE]

I edited, because I agree, Lombardi probably gets the 3rd line spot, IMO. Hayes will be in HTFD.

NYR2711
09-24-2014, 01:41 PM
Espn is reporting that it happened as he was sliding in drills.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:41 PM
Personally, I would try Malone with Zuccarello and Brassard. He can play the Pouliot role on that line.

My concern there is that line will have to be a go-to line and I'd imagine that top defenders can probably contain Malone. I think Kreider's speed can add a new dimension to Brass/Zucc. Then I'd try to get Malone and Nash against 2nd pair defenders as much as possible, while your MSL line will still have to be a consideration for defensive assignments as well.

!br-avery!
09-24-2014, 01:42 PM
Injury bug hitting us early

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:44 PM
you may well be right but at 6.5 225 you will get some benefit of the doubt.


He's on the list now for sure, I think, whereas I would have agreed with you before this injury took place.

I don't really see them trying to rush a guy the see as precious, the way they see Hayes. One game in, the speed of the game seems to be an issue. Maybe he improves, I just don't see them trying to rush Hayes when they have 5 guys with pro experience who can play center right now.

Brassard
Miller
Lombardi
Moore
Lindberg
--
Even Bourque.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 01:46 PM
I can kind of see the lineup going like:

Kreider - Brassard - MZA
Nash - Miller/Lindberg/Hayes - MSL
Hagelin - Moore - Malone
Glass - Lombardi - Stempniak

Not what I'd want, necessarily, but what I think AV might go with.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:46 PM
I don't really see them trying to rush a guy the see as precious, the way they see Hayes. One game in, the speed of the game seems to be an issue. Maybe he improves, I just don't see them trying to rush Hayes when they have 5 guys with pro experience who can play center right now.

Brassard
Miller
Lombardi
Moore
Lindberg
--
Even Bourque.

I need to see more out of Lombardi to write him in like that. I didn't think he had a good game really on Monday night. So I would put him and Hayes at the same chances of making the team at this point. Need to see more from both.

Slobberknocker
09-24-2014, 01:48 PM
i fully see your point. i in no way am for doing anything that would retard this guy's development. You and I also agree that AV has a bit of unease playing kids. In that regard the probability is that they muddle through this and await steps to come back.

In reality we probably don't see steps back upto speed until the new year. especially given the length it took him to get into form after last years hold out.

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:50 PM
I need to see more out of Lombardi to write him in like that. I didn't think he had a good game really on Monday night. So I would put him and Hayes at the same chances of making the team at this point. Need to see more from both.

I don't see them as in the same, battle regardless of what the media says. You have a veteran having a bad camp, you chalk it up to a slow start and playing overseas, getting acclimated back into the NHL (a la Dom Moore last year). You have a guy like Hayes with a slow start, and the perception is he isn't ready.

I really felt like Hayes would have to steal that spot from Miller or Lombardi. Miller is likely getting a spot due to injury (shit or get off the pot time), and Lombardi will make the team because AV just likes veteran teams.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 01:51 PM
I don't see them as in the same, battle regardless of what the media says. You have a veteran having a bad camp, you chalk it up to a slow start and playing overseas, getting acclimated back into the NHL (a la Dom Moore last year). You have a guy like Hayes with a slow start, and the perception is he isn't ready.

I really felt like Hayes would have to steal that spot from Miller or Lombardi. Miller is likely getting a spot due to injury (shit or get off the pot time), and Lombardi will make the team because AV just likes veteran teams.

Fair enough, we'll have to see.

Slobberknocker
09-24-2014, 01:52 PM
the board is percolating....

good to see.

Pete
09-24-2014, 01:53 PM
i fully see your point. i in no way am for doing anything that would retard this guy's development. You and I also agree that AV has a bit of unease playing kids. In that regard the probability is that they muddle through this and await steps to come back.

In reality we probably don't see steps back upto speed until the new year. especially given the length it took him to get into form after last years hold out.

I agree, without information and just guessing, I'd be shocked to see Stepan before Thanksgiving.

Respecttheblue
09-24-2014, 02:47 PM
My friend said "a fractured fibula, could be months."

Well I can't quibble with Sather anymore for signing all that extra depth instead of spending it on someone who left and didn't want to stay hard enough.

So now we've got who? Brassard, Miller, Moore, Lombardi, Hayes, and Mueller.

The opportunity is there for one of them to step up and give AV and management a good look as to why they should make the squad on opening night. Let the games begin again, with even more feeling.

Medium term it's a setback, as Stepan will have to recondition and will lily come back out of synch and out of game shape, but long term, maybe it helps an important depth player or prospect develop.

torontonyr
09-24-2014, 02:52 PM
I don't see them as in the same, battle regardless of what the media says. You have a veteran having a bad camp, you chalk it up to a slow start and playing overseas, getting acclimated back into the NHL (a la Dom Moore last year). You have a guy like Hayes with a slow start, and the perception is he isn't ready.

I really felt like Hayes would have to steal that spot from Miller or Lombardi. Miller is likely getting a spot due to injury (shit or get off the pot time), and Lombardi will make the team because AV just likes veteran teams.

Lombardi looked awful in the first pre-season game. Moreover, I'm pretty sure that the club assured Hayes that there would be a good chance of him hitting the roster during the courtship, I would have to imagine he at least gets a 50/50 shot with this injury.

Pete
09-24-2014, 02:54 PM
Lombardi looked awful in the first pre-season game. Moreover, I'm pretty sure that the club assured Hayes that there would be a good chance of him hitting the roster during the courtship, I would have to imagine he at least gets a 50/50 shot with this injury.

Who makes decisions based on one pre-season game?

Myusername
09-24-2014, 03:36 PM
It will definitely be Lombardi in there unless he looks flat out horrible in the remaining games. 530 NHL games of experience vs 0 for Hayes. Hmm

Pete
09-24-2014, 04:00 PM
:tweet:New York Rangers: #NYR President and GM Glen Sather announced that Derek Stepan suffered a non-displaced fractured fibula & will be sidelined for 4-to-6 weeks

--

Guess that's a month of the season?

lefty9
09-24-2014, 04:00 PM
Holy shit

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 04:01 PM
:tweet: @NYRangers: #NYR President and GM Glen Sather announced that Derek Stepan suffered a non-displaced fractured fibula & will be sidelined for 4-to-6 weeks

Captain Clutch
09-24-2014, 04:01 PM
Alright, so misses the first 2 weeks of the season.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 04:02 PM
That's pretty much the best we can hope for. He's back early November, at the latest.

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 04:04 PM
Eh, if true, that's the best news you could hope for. Sucks him missing camp, which, if last year was any indication, means he won't be in game shape until after Christmas, but it beats 7-8 weeks. Could mean between 7-13 games.

torontonyr
09-24-2014, 04:04 PM
Who makes decisions based on one pre-season game?

No one, at all. I merely pointed it out.

RichieNextel305
09-24-2014, 04:09 PM
I think 4-6 weeks is sugarcoating it. I think 6-8 is likely more accurate here. Which, all things being considered, isn't terrible. I think he'll be back skating beforehand, but I don't think he'll return until around the 6th week at the earliest. But, we'll see. Again though, as much as it sucks that he will miss all of camp and preseason, atleast it wasn't something like an ACL tear where his season is gone.

Drew a Penalty
09-24-2014, 04:15 PM
6 weeks isn't that bad. You can't lose a season in your first 10 games, look at last season. Hopefully he can recover quickly and come back productive.

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 04:21 PM
I think 4-6 weeks is sugarcoating it. I think 6-8 is likely more accurate here. Which, all things being considered, isn't terrible. I think he'll be back skating beforehand, but I don't think he'll return until around the 6th week at the earliest. But, we'll see. Again though, as much as it sucks that he will miss all of camp and preseason, atleast it wasn't something like an ACL tear where his season is gone.

The problem is, as last year indicated, it takes Stepan a while to get into game shape, so you're probably still talking December for a productive hockey player.

Pete
09-24-2014, 04:23 PM
That noise coming from the trainer's room is either the cast being put on, or Stepan getting fatter.

Pete
09-24-2014, 04:25 PM
The problem is, as last year indicated, it takes Stepan a while to get into game shape, so you're probably still talking December for a productive hockey player.

Forget game shape, if it's possible, he's going to get even slower with all the muscle atrophy.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 04:27 PM
Should help with contract negotiations then. :)

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 04:28 PM
Forget game shape, if it's possible, he's going to get even slower with all the muscle atrophy.

I thought they had muscle stimulators that can give you a good work out without putting impact on injuries like this.

Morphinity
09-24-2014, 04:29 PM
I thought they had muscle stimulators that can give you a good work out without putting impact on injuries like this.

I'm pretty sure they do. I don't think they let you sit at home and eat bon bons all day.

So Nashty
09-24-2014, 04:35 PM
I thought they had muscle stimulators that can give you a good work out without putting impact on injuries like this.

Where do I get one of these for myself? Working out while watching tv? I'm in :rofl:

AmericanJesus
09-24-2014, 04:38 PM
Where do I get one of these for myself? Working out while watching tv? I'm in :rofl:

http://www.amazon.com/Compex-CX142WI02-COMPEX-Performance-Stimulator/dp/B003BG2QXY

Phil in Absentia
09-24-2014, 04:45 PM
I'm pretty sure they do. I don't think they let you sit at home and eat bon bons all day.

We both know Stepan is clearly not a Bon Bons guy. He's clearly a pork rinds fan.

Future
09-24-2014, 05:02 PM
That's pretty much the best we can hope for. He's back early November, at the latest.
Yea, I'd say sit him through Halloween at least. Even if he feels alright, there's no sense risking the rest of the season to try to rush him back early.

So Nashty
09-24-2014, 05:24 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Compex-CX142WI02-COMPEX-Performance-Stimulator/dp/B003BG2QXY

Awesome. Beach body here I come.

The Dude
09-24-2014, 06:09 PM
Just because they had apparent chemistry on a line last season doesn't mean that the combination of Brassard-Zuccarello is unbreakable. Pouliot did a lot to make that line combination work by creating space with his size.

Agree big time. Line combos dont always last. Who knows if it works between them ever again? Maybe Pouliot was the key to the chemestry.

This is BAD news folks.

Jules
09-24-2014, 06:09 PM
We both know Stepan is clearly not a Bon Bons guy. He's clearly a pork rinds fan.

Beer brats. Cheddar cheese. Frozen custard. He went to Wisconsin after all.

MXRider
09-24-2014, 06:41 PM
Awesome. Beach body here I come.

Those things arent that pleasant to use... Your essentially electrocuting your muscle over and over.

Puck Head
09-24-2014, 06:59 PM
AA and Lindberg has similar rookie AHL production, but AA had 81 points in 82 games as a sophomore. This is Lindberg's sophomore year upcoming so it remains to be seen if he explodes in a similar fashion.

And AA also reached the AHL a year younger then Lindberg.
So AA was two full years faster in development then Lindberg after being drafted.

Pete
09-24-2014, 07:04 PM
And AA also reached the AHL a year younger then Lindberg.
So AA was two full years faster in development then Lindberg after being drafted.

Right, good point as well.

So Nashty
09-24-2014, 07:27 PM
Those things arent that pleasant to use... Your essentially electrocuting your muscle over and over.

Haha I wasn't being serious. I can imagine.

SaveByRichter35
09-24-2014, 08:19 PM
I'm not syaing I want to rush Hayes' development along but if they give him the time and he runs with it then by all means I hope he steps(no pun intended) up and grabs the reigns as the #1 center and Stepan never sees another shift in that spot. Of course its probably not likely to happen that way but one could hope. I'd love for Hayes to become that big strong fast #1 center that we've lacked forever.

!br-avery!
09-24-2014, 10:12 PM
This is a huge chance for Miller to step in and play well .

Respecttheblue
09-24-2014, 10:48 PM
You ready for Dom Moore, second line center again?

Not really. No disrespect to DM, but that's kinda like the safety net of the others can't get it done in a more productive way.
But then you weren't serious were you?


The problem is, as last year indicated, it takes Stepan a while to get into game shape, so you're probably still talking December for a productive hockey player.

Yes. Was thinking about the same thing as far as him cranking back into game shape. Oh well. At least he "slows the game down"


This is a huge chance for Miller to step in and play well .

If they give him the opportunity it would be, like you say, huge for him. Not sure how he ups his production "from squat to a lot" in short order, but one can hope.
I'd like to see Hayes get some looks, others ... might as well see what we/they got.

!br-avery!
09-25-2014, 12:43 AM
If they give him the opportunity it would be, like you say, huge for him. Not sure how he ups his production "from squat to a lot" in short order, but one can hope.
I'd like to see Hayes get some looks, others ... might as well see what we/they got.

Very true but if he plays with say Nash and St. Louis I think he may end up benefitting playing with 2 established big name players.Nash is going to get his goals and MSL is going to put up his points,Miller just needs to not overplay and try and do too much.

CreaseCrusader91
09-25-2014, 09:21 AM
:tweet:@rangersreport:
CORRECTION: Because there was some confusion in the info, Stepan's original injury (suffered pre-camp) was NOT to his foot but to his fibula

Drew a Penalty
09-25-2014, 09:32 AM
So did our medical staff fuck up?

Phil in Absentia
09-25-2014, 09:33 AM
Lavoie from RDS sent out a tweet yesterday saying something about how he originally hurt himself over three weeks ago, and that the bone just broke yesterday. No word on how.

Future
09-25-2014, 09:43 AM
So did our medical staff fuck up?
Either that or he pushed himself to get back too soon.

Wonder if he felt some added pressure after last offseason and wanted to make sure he was putting the work in, even if he was hurt.

Slobberknocker
09-25-2014, 09:46 AM
so is stepan the new whipping boy here?

Pete
09-25-2014, 10:07 AM
How is he a whipping boy?

Drew a Penalty
09-25-2014, 10:28 AM
Either that or he pushed himself to get back too soon.

Wonder if he felt some added pressure after last offseason and wanted to make sure he was putting the work in, even if he was hurt.

But I'm just curious how this flies under the radar. Even if this was separate from the blocked shot, how was this not addressed at all?

Ba Ba Bluey
09-25-2014, 12:04 PM
How is he a whipping boy?

Homegrown Player from US + Criticism = whipping boy?

Vodka Drunkenski
09-25-2014, 12:15 PM
This thread is about his injury, how is he a whipping boy?

Slobberknocker
09-25-2014, 12:38 PM
just reading some of the comments in this thread, not muscular enough, too slow, not a true 1c...

or am i taking the comments to literally?

!br-avery!
09-25-2014, 01:34 PM
just reading some of the comments in this thread, not muscular enough, too slow, not a true 1c...

or am i taking the comments to literally?
Most of those comments are true though aren't they?

RichieNextel305
09-25-2014, 01:39 PM
In an ideal world, Derek Stepan is not a 1C. He's a solid 2C. That's not a knock as much as it's an observation. I love Stepan, but I'm not gonna pretend he's something he's not.

RichieNextel305
09-25-2014, 01:41 PM
With Stepan being out, AV mentioned the possibility of MSL possibly playing center. He said he asked his coaches if he has any experience playing there. Now reports are out that MSL has gone to the staff and told them that if need be, he can play there in Stepan's absence.

http://snyrangersblog.com/rangers/note-marty-st-louis-reached-out-about-playing-center/

I don't know if this necessarily will happen or not. The Rangers may not be loaded down the middle, but they do have guys who can step in and play there. I'd rather go that option as opposed to having maybe our best player switch positions during his first full camp in New York.

cousin
09-25-2014, 02:00 PM
JT Miller is key here IMO. He has to take it to the next level and have a breakout year. I think he can be that player we need and this opportunity is the perfect chance for him to step in and show he's ready to be a top 6 and earn some money. I liked him with St. Louis and Malone and think they will stay in place.

Pete
09-25-2014, 02:02 PM
With Stepan being out, AV mentioned the possibility of MSL possibly playing center. He said he asked his coaches if he has any experience playing there. Now reports are out that MSL has gone to the staff and told them that if need be, he can play there in Stepan's absence.

http://snyrangersblog.com/rangers/note-marty-st-louis-reached-out-about-playing-center/

I don't know if this necessarily will happen or not. The Rangers may not be loaded down the middle, but they do have guys who can step in and play there. I'd rather go that option as opposed to having maybe our best player switch positions during his first full camp in New York.

Sign Hayes to get bigger at center > Move MSL to center. :rolleyes:

I know it's out of necessity, just saying....

Phil in Absentia
09-25-2014, 02:04 PM
With Stepan being out, AV mentioned the possibility of MSL possibly playing center. He said he asked his coaches if he has any experience playing there. Now reports are out that MSL has gone to the staff and told them that if need be, he can play there in Stepan's absence.

http://snyrangersblog.com/rangers/note-marty-st-louis-reached-out-about-playing-center/

I don't know if this necessarily will happen or not. The Rangers may not be loaded down the middle, but they do have guys who can step in and play there. I'd rather go that option as opposed to having maybe our best player switch positions during his first full camp in New York.

Man, that'd be rough. Guy has never played center in his life.

RichieNextel305
09-25-2014, 02:09 PM
Yeah. I appreciate his willingness to do whatever he can to help, don't get me wrong. But, again, St. Louis is probably this teams best player (him, Nash if he gets his head on right, whatever) and I don't really think it'd be the smartest thing in the world to have him jumping position to position. I think he'd have success there because I don't think there is a thing the man can't do while being productive. But I'd rather see him just stay on a wing, get comfortable and ready for the season. Guys like Lindberg, Hayes and even Miller are young guys and none of them are likely to break any types of records this upcoming season if they need to play. But they can contribute, they are young and they have legs, size and whatnot. I'd rather go that option.

Phil in Absentia
09-25-2014, 02:15 PM
I'd just rather they try and let a natural center fail before moving a guy who has never played that position in his life into the highest profile position at forward.

Morphinity
09-25-2014, 02:19 PM
I just hope, if the coaches say no, he doesn't demand a trade.

fletch
09-25-2014, 03:06 PM
F*ck. Wonder how the line combinations will shake out to start the season.

Phil in Absentia
10-06-2014, 12:54 PM
:tweet: @HartnettHockey: #NYR head coach Alain Vigneault confirms that center Derek Stepan will be placed on the long term IR.

Travis Bickle
10-30-2014, 01:29 PM
Derek Stepan close to returning for Rangers


GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Rangers center Derek Stepan, sidelined since training camp with a broken fibula, is close to returning to practice.

"I would say in the next four to seven days he should be back on ice with us," head coach Alain Vigneault said. Vigneault did not pinpoint when Stepan, who is eligible to come off long-term injured reserve on Monday, would play in a game.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/derek-stepan-close-to-returning-for-rangers-1.9560898

Pete
10-30-2014, 01:37 PM
Probably 2 weeks away from playing, a month away from playing well.

So Nashty
10-30-2014, 01:38 PM
Probably 2 weeks away from playing, a month away from playing well.

Funny, I was going to say something similar. Seems like it always takes him a while to warm up.

!br-avery!
10-30-2014, 01:57 PM
Sweet,so next year he will be playing up to par

Travis Bickle
10-30-2014, 02:01 PM
He scored two goals in one game after he broke his jaw last season, so perhaps he will surprise us. :)

Future
10-30-2014, 02:30 PM
Funny, I was going to say something similar. Seems like it always takes him a while to warm up.
A slow start this year wouldn't be a surprise at all. Basically the same as last season except it's an injury instead of a holdout.

Myusername
10-30-2014, 03:44 PM
Eh, I'd take a slow-starting Stepan over St. Louis playing center. Even when he's lumbering around he's still probably more effective than our current centers

Slobberknocker
10-31-2014, 12:48 PM
Probably 2 weeks away from playing, a month away from playing well.

man, pete is optimistic today... get some last nite big boy?

Faiz
11-01-2014, 07:15 AM
Though he remains on LTIR, Stepan is eligible to play again Monday when the Rangers host the St. Louis Blues. Head coach Alain Vigneault said Stepan — who wore the bright yellow non-contact jersey during practice Friday — is "day-to-day" and that he could envision Stepan's return to the lineup at any point starting this Monday.

"He skated today and looked fine to me, but the medical staff will tell us when he can start taking contact, and then from there it's when we feel his conditioning is good and he's good to go," Vigneault explained. "At this point it doesn't appear that he would play Monday, but I would not rule anything out."

http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/article/stepan-back-ice-crawl-you-can-walk

Respecttheblue
11-01-2014, 10:05 AM
man, pete is optimistic today... get some last nite big boy?

:rofl:



stepz::we live in hopez

Travis Bickle
11-05-2014, 05:08 AM
Rangers coach not ready to approve Derek Stepan return


Derek Stepan said the decision whether to play Wednesday against the Red Wings at the Garden was up to the coach. For all intents and purposes, the coach then said no. Tuesday was Stepan’s third day of practice after being cleared for contact, but all three of those practices were optional.


“Step has been medically cleared, but unfortunately, because of circumstances, we haven’t been able to have at least one team practice,” Vigneault said. “He’s been on three optionals, and he hasn’t been on one full-team practice. So I say to you that the chances of me playing him [Wednesday] are very, very slim.”


http://nypost.com/2014/11/04/stepan-yet-to-pass-vigneault-test/

Faiz
11-05-2014, 05:12 AM
We need him back! If he's cleared hopefully he should be fine, but Rangers aren't gonna take any chances. They need him back and need him to stay.
That being said though, I know Stepan wants to play tomorrow.

Puck Head
11-05-2014, 10:56 AM
I'm glad to see they aren't rushing him.
We hopefully have around 90 more games this season, and would like to see him healthy for that.

Travis Bickle
11-07-2014, 07:58 PM
Rangers F Derek Stepan will make season debut Saturday


After missing the first 12 games of the regular season, New York Rangers center Derek Stepan will make his season debut on Saturday night when the team travels to Toronto take on the Maple Leafs, coach Alain Vigneault announced on Friday.

Stepan has been out for a little more than six weeks after he fractured his fibula during training camp.

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24788302

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Welcome Back Stepan.

Vodka Drunkenski
11-07-2014, 08:51 PM
A lot has changed in 2 days, personally would've given him at least 1 more game

phillyb™
11-08-2014, 11:14 AM
excited to see him back in the lineup.
one more game?
i hope he's rested enough.
does av shelter his minutes?

Vodka Drunkenski
11-08-2014, 12:15 PM
Nevermind, I didn't realize they play tomorrow. I thought their next game was Tuesday, hence the 1 more game.

phillyb™
11-08-2014, 12:36 PM
they play tonight dude.
they play tonight.

Vodka Drunkenski
11-08-2014, 12:44 PM
they play tonight dude. they play tonight.

I know that but I did not realize they play tomorrow as well which is why I would've given him another game to rest and at least 1 more full practice to get closer to game shape.

phillyb™
11-08-2014, 01:14 PM
have to make toronto happy?
idk. oh well. two games back to back at nhl level (as opposed to practice) might actually help him get into the full swing of things.

Vodka Drunkenski
11-08-2014, 05:49 PM
I'm looking more towards of not putting a player coming back from a fractured leg in a bad spot. Make Toronto happy? I'll safely assume that's sarcasm.